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Mary Rosenblum
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Hello all.
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Welcome to our Professional
connection interview with C. Hope Clark, originator of FundsForWriters.com, dedicated
to finding grants and contests for serious writers.
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C. Hope Clark is editor and
founder of FundsforWriters.com , an award winning website recognized by
Writer's Digest's 101 Best Web Sites for Writers for the last seven years.
She's published in The Writer, ByLine Magazine, Writer's Digest, Writers
Weekly; trade magazines like Turf, Landscape Construction, and Landscape
Management; magazines regarding young people like NextStep Teen, American
Careers, College Bound Teen and VOYA.
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Her weekly newsletters reach
18,000 readers, and she currently posts fourteen ebooks at her website
including THE SHY WRITER: An Introvert's Guide to Writing Success, also
published in paperback. She specializes in grants, contests, and markets
for serious writers.
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So welcome, Hope! Your
newsletter is SO wonderful!
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C Hope Clark
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Thanks - I greatly enjoy
producing it.
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Mary Rosenblum
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So how did all this get
started? Did you start out as a writer and then start finding grants?
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C Hope Clark
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I started out as a lender and
grant provider THEN returned to writing.
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Mary Rosenblum
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Oh, how interesting! What kind
of grant provider?
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C Hope Clark
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I worked for the federal
government and was fast burning out after 20+ years - we made grants for
agriculture, nonprofits, even housing applicants in rural areas
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I had served on educational
and arts grant panels as well
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Mary Rosenblum
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Wow! I was on the other end of
that process. I was in biomedical research and we had to write grants every
year or so. Very stressful time, I remember!
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C Hope Clark
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One of my peers asked me why didn't
I write for myself since I wrote all the important documents for the
agency.
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So I went home and started.
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I'd written in high school and
college and cast it aside. It felt good going back to it.
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I wrote for the Internet when
it was a novelty - and was asked to speak to a writer's group on writing
for the Web.
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But when I spoke to that group
in Atlanta,
they fussed about not having much money and not being able to afford
conferences and such
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we started talking about
grants, finding funds, making ends meet. I went home and emails started as
they told their friends.
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To keep from repeating so many
emails over and over, I created a newsletter. It grew fast.
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Mary Rosenblum
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How long have you been doing
this now?
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C Hope Clark
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The newsletter was born in
March 2000.
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Mary Rosenblum
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Seven years! That's quite a
distinguished career. :-) And a LOT of work.
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Can you give us an overview of
the newsletter, for those who haven't visited it?
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C Hope Clark
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It is a never ending subject -
finding funds. Always something to talk about.
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FundsforWriters contains the
same sections it's had for years - an op-ed by me, a how-to article, three
grants, three contests, three writing jobs, three publishing opportunities
and three freelance openings
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It's simple and well-liked.
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It lists only those that pay
or 20 cents/word and up.
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The other newsletters cover
other areas.
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There are four altogether.
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FFW Small Markets covers
paying markets that pay less.
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WritingKid covers markets for
kids - elementary through college
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TOTAL FundsforWriters is the
paid subscription 12$/year. It is similar to FundsforWriters except it has
80+ opportunities listed.
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sailor
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You offer a free newsletter that
has fewer markets than the paid one. For an individual market, are the
descriptions the same in both newsletters or does the paid one have more
detail? I'm thinking of subscribing to the free one as a sample before
signing up for the paid one.
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C Hope Clark
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The details are the same in
both - just more are listed in TOTAL. I try to list what they pay and the
general concept and link for that publication.
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TOTAL is published biweekly
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FundsforWriters is weekly
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The week that TOTAL and FFW
are published at the same time, you may see some similar markets.
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tigger
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What is the URL of your website,
Hope?
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C Hope Clark
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www.fundsforwriters.com
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barbiq
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Is Writingkid for young writers
or for young readers?
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C Hope Clark
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For young writers - I was
receiving requests from parents and teachers about markets for young people
- especially young teens - so I created WritingKid.
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Not all of them pay and some
of them are even scholarships that require essays, but they all offer
publishing opportunities for kids.
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Many teachers use it in their
classes.
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Mary Rosenblum
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And I love it! I have found few
or no good market lists for young writers out there!
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C Hope Clark
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I've learned over the years
that young people web sites get forgotten quickly.
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Mary Rosenblum
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I hand out the URL to teen writers
(and younger) all the time.
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What about grants, Hope? Are
there really quite a few grants out there?
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C Hope Clark
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As someone's child grows up,
the web site they created in enthusiasm dies.
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There are grants out
there...the key is your writing project matching what is available.
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I call grants those funds from
arts councils, paid opps to speak to schools, retreats, even conference
fees
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A lot of writers think they
just need to say they write to receive a grant.
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Actually, like any grant, the
applicant has to prepare a very professional application
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and convince judges that their
project or their vision is worthy of funding.
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A few grants are given for
past performance
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but all in all, one has to be
a writer first before applying - that is hard for the unpublished writer
unless you're talking about conferences.
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Mary Rosenblum
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Ah, that was my next question.
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C Hope Clark
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The newbie has a hard time.
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Mary Rosenblum
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What about the writer with,
say, a novel proposal but few if any publishing clips. Any hope at all?
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C Hope Clark
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Just like any grant...you have
to demonstrate your proficiency or qualifications
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if the writer has some proof
of ability - such as degree or clips or even profession.
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tigger
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Are the grants you mention
primarily for writers of literary fiction, or do you have grants for
nonfiction and genre wrtiers as well?
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C Hope Clark
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Arts councils lean toward
literary fiction and poetry and plays;
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usually a literary bent,
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however, anyone can qualify
for a grant if they can marry what they write to humanities or something of
public interest.
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Arts councils and humanities
councils are always seeking writers for community projects, school
presentations and such,
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so genre or literary doesn't
matter.
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I always tell writers to contact
their state arts council for ideas - each state is different.
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Some have training funds -
others just fellowships for past work - some have competitions.
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To find your state arts
council, go to www.nasaa-arts.org and
look for your state.
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It's worth talking to your
arts council - they have connections to other entities even if they cannot
help you.
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They usually travel throughout
the state teaching folks how to apply for grants as well.
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sailor
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Do Arts Councils pay writers for
projects or do they mostly look for volunteers?
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C Hope Clark
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Oh no - they pay for projects
- you propose what you'd like to do and they fund it.
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barbiq
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How many clips do you feel a
writer should have to not be considered a newbie?
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C Hope Clark
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Arts councils have funds from
the state and feds to deliver to their areas
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I don't think I can quantify
that...
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it depends upon the genre, the
writer - you might have a great clip from a well-known publication versus
someone with just online clips.
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You also might be local versus
national
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and a lot depends on the
judges.
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I've served on those panels
and I always looked at the professionalism and wanted to see how the
applicant presented himself well enough to justify the project proposed.
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The application says it all.
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you also never know the
competition against you - some years are easier than others
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Mary Rosenblum
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I had a question about the
application process from Sally:
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Sally asked: Would you list
three similarities and differences in marketing your work for publication
and grant seeking?
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C Hope Clark
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Many people do not apply for
those opportunities - I served on a panel in Phoenix once - 11 grants out of
80 applicants.
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Similarities:
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Sell yourself as a writer just
as you would to an agent...demonstrate a passion....no errors in your
presentation.
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Differences -
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Show an ability to follow
through with a project...usually have to list your budget (how you will use
the grant)...sometimes financial need.
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But there are more similarities
than differences-
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I had to scratch my head on
the differences - there aren't many.
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Mary Rosenblum
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I imagine the budget is the big
one.
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C Hope Clark
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And each grant has a different
method to apply - some are forms - others are narrative.
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For state and federal grants,
the budget counts big-time.
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The biggest error I saw in
paneling grants was a budget that didn't balance
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or the numbers didn't add up
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or the expenses were
unrealistic.
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Don't get me wrong - the
budgets aren't that hard
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it's a matter of just saying
what you'd do with the money.
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tigger
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Is the application process
similar to that for nonprofits?
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C Hope Clark
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And some grants don't even
require the budget.
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It is - but simpler
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and often it is judged based
on writing submitted, too.
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sailor
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Grants to organizations often
require matching funds. That would not apply to an individual, would it?
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C Hope Clark
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No.
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Glad you brought up
nonprofits, though.
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I try to get writers to
partner with nonprofits.
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They have access to many more
funds...and they can be fiscal sponsors for writers
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as long as the writer's
mission meshes well with that of the nonprofit.
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Fiscal sponsors are nonprofits
that sponsor the writer - the NP handles the money, often taking 20% or so
for admin expenses
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and the rest goes to the
writer to complete a project.
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The nonprofit is accountable
for the writer.
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barbiq
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Not to sound stupid, but what
are you budgeting? Supplies? Computers? Travel for research?
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C Hope Clark
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Absolutely - that and your
time.
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You can actually put dollars
to your hours.
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Mary Rosenblum
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Living expenses?
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C Hope Clark
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Most fellowship grants are
just that - travel and hours spent,
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so it's not hard.
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Better to say hours spent
writing than living expenses.
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barbiq
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Do you find many opportunities
for the modern or "free style" poet?
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C Hope Clark
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You want the grant to go
toward writing, not Sears or the grocery store.
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Arts councils are good for
those
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since they have a literary
bent in most states.
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tigger
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Do most grants require you to
show financial need?
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C Hope Clark
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Actually, no, they don't.
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Some nonprofits that give
grants may ask for that, but most grants do not
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and some conferences may ask
for financial need.
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Conferences may ask for
financial need to pay your way.
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Grantors lean heavily on
ability and professionalism
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not need.
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Mary Rosenblum
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I’m sorry, Hope, I kind of cut
off Barbiq's question about poetry.
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Do you have opportunities for
poets?
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C Hope Clark
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Poets have as many grant
opportunities as any other style writer.
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Let me explain about grants,
though --
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a large grant is a couple of
thousand dollars - they are not large
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the largest one I know of is $50,000
through A Room of Her Own Foundation.
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The second largest is the $20,000
National Endowment for the Arts.
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The rest are small - $100 -
$500.
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There really aren't grants out
there to quit work or take too long off the regular job to write fulltime.
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tigger
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What should you budget for an
hour of your time?
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C Hope Clark
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That's why I explain to writers
to think of grants as a perk, not a necessity.
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Depends on the grant - keep in
mind that the judges want to know they are funding you well enough to get
the job done - if the grant is $2000
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and you want to show that
grant will do a lot for your success, you can say as low as $12 or such
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see??
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There is no magic number - the
key is to grab the grant and say what it's used for
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geezer
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Are grants tax free?
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C Hope Clark
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It's what you feel you are
worth.
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Actually no - they are not.
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Uncle Sam will tax that grant,
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but what is key...
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is that you expense that grant
through your writing expenses
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travel, purchases, supplies,
postage, etc….
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but it is taxable income.
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barbiq
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Do you feel that receiving a
grant helps the future publishing opportunities for a writer?
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C Hope Clark
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Absolutely.
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Grants are greater than clips.
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They are considered the same
as awards
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and publishers and agents
think highly of them.
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sailor
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Pretend you received a grant to
research and write a book about the history of a certain area. Do they
check up on you after a year or whatever to see if you did it?
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C Hope Clark
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I've seen instances of writers
who obtained grants and then landed contracts.
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You will probably have to file
a report back to them about what you accomplished.
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Most grants want something in
the end for accountability - especially state or federal grants
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but it's not hard,
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they do not read your work or
look at your books.
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You usually fill out a form
they provide or you send them an email narrative.
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tcemonika
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Should we add the grant to a
query letter?
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C Hope Clark
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If you've won one...YES - it
says so much about your professionalism and sincerity
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it also shows that someone
else respected your work, your work ethic and your abilities
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grants open doors once you've
won them.
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tigger
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Can you use prose from a grant
application that was accepted as a clip?
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C Hope Clark
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A grant takes no rights or
makes no claims,
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does that answer your
question?
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I would like to give you a
couple of examples of grant successes - is that okay?
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might help see things.
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These come from FundsforWriters
readers.
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Mary Rosenblum
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Fine!
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C Hope Clark
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Rae Anna Victor received a Kittredge
grant to research a book she self published .
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She wrote about George
Washington and the first US Marshals.
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The grant allowed her to
publish and buy enough books to give to the Daughters of the American
Revolution for a literacy project of theirs.
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She has gone on to publish two
law enforcement books with a small independent press.
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Mary Rosenblum
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Interesting. So self publishing
is not an instant 'non starter' for grants!
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C Hope Clark
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No it's not - the grants are
more for the writing, not how they are published.
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Mary Rosenblum
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That's worth knowing.
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C Hope Clark
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David Williams in Washington State...
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he applied to the county
government for two grants - a heritage grant and a special projects grants
- these weren't even writing grants - they were history related.
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he received money each of two
years to complete a book of essays on Seattle's natural history
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And he self-pubbed it too.
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Amanda Johnson is a poet...
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The Kentucky Foundation for
Women gave her money to travel to NYC to study with a well known performing
poet.
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Shanna Germain is a poet.
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She received from Oregon's Literary
Arts Council to self-pub a book of poetry about EMT's and
firefighters.
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She is an EMT.
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Brandi Reissenweber is a
novelist.
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You may have seen her name in
Writer's Digest.
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She received a grant from grant.
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The list just goes on and on.
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What is also important to know
is that once you win a grant, it's easier to land another.
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Most of the people in my file
have won more than one.
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Mary Rosenblum
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That's good to know that a
grant begets grants.
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Great examples.What strikes me
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is that these are for projects
that are not guaranteed publication.
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C Hope Clark
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most are
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as I said earlier - writing
grants to individual writers are for writing, not nessarily for publication.
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barbiq
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So what is your best single
suggestion for finding, applying and winning a grant to the first timer?
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C Hope Clark
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Call up or visit your arts
council in your state - they are more than happy to hold your hand and help
you apply - even let you see previous winning grants and explain how they
won.
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Those folks are paid to help
artists
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and what they cannot fund,
they can direct elsewhere.
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They have their finger on the
pulse of funding.
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sailor
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Do you stand a better chance of
getting a grant if you know someone on the Arts Council, or is it blind
judging?
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C Hope Clark
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it is blind judging, but keep
in mind that the arts council people determine if an application is
complete - also
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an arts council member directs
the judges in their activities
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quixote
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Your page has links to contests:
are contests better or 'as good' starting places for getting published?
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C Hope Clark
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when I served on panels, the
arts person always said things like...this person applied before...this
person has won before...etc.
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Contests are excellent
starting places - when you query an editor or agent and can show
awards/contests, it's as good as a clip - or better.
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I'm a firm believer in
contests.
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Sometimes they are easier to
win that landing a plum writing assignment or finding an agent or publisher.
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tigger
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Does it help your application to
state professional qualifications other than writing? Say, education or
experience in engineering?
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C Hope Clark
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It does if it's applicable to
what you write.
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It also goes to show
professionalism and
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it can also help show that you
can promote yourself
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or speak to crowds.
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Just don't include something
for the heck of it...make it have a positive impact.
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For instance...
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I am writing a series of
mysteries right now
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in hopes of landing a contract.
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They are agricultural
mysteries - a niche I've never found anywhere.
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My degree is in agriculture,
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so yes, I would mention it.
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Agents want just the minimum
of information with the biggest impact to help them decide on you and your
work.
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For grants....use everything
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to show you are focused, are
professional.
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sailor
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Your web site indicates PDF is
the standard format for the newsletters but MS Word is also available. Is
there an extra cost for MS Word format?
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C Hope Clark
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PDF is the standard format for
the ebooks - MS Word is available at no charge - that's because I know that
blind readers cannot deal with PDF.
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The newsletters are text and
html.
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tigger
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Do editors consider prose taken
from one's successful grant application as a clip when submitting an
article? The same way they'd accept a published article, I mean?
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C Hope Clark
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Yes they would,
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it's like winning a
competition.
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Mary Rosenblum
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So, Hope, tells us about your
books.
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C Hope Clark
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The ebooks started about eight
years ago when I had more information than I could cram in a newsletter.
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There was just so much to
teach and so little space to teach it in
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so I created a grant ebook --
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then one thing let to another
and I created the No Fee Contest Ebook,
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because so many writers hate
entry fees for contests,
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and so on.
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There are a dozen ebooks on
the site now.
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Mary Rosenblum
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Are these 'how to' or more like
a market list?
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C Hope Clark
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And I try to keep them updated
at least every 8 months or so.
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Half and half.
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Mary Rosenblum
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Do you have an ebook on 'how to
write a grant application?'
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C Hope Clark
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I include anywhere from 6 to
10 chapters of how-to, why and what for information.
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The grant book talked
generally about that, but not specifically...because each grant application
is remarkably different.
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No two are alike.
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Some are just a form with a
writing attachment,
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others are narratives,
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some are a blend,
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some want history - others
want projections.
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Individual grant applications
are SOOO diversified compared to nonprofits applications.
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Just like writers are told to
do about pitching and querying --
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know the guidelines,
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study the instructions,
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understand the flavor of the
grantor.
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quixote
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You offer them all in one
package - like one large book?
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C Hope Clark
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FundsforWriters doesn't offer
the grant applications - we list what's called...Calls for Submissions
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and the newsletters list these
calls and opportunities
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Mary Rosenblum
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Are your books all ebooks,
Hope?
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C Hope Clark
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and where to find more
information.
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I have one trade paperback -
The Shy Writer.
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As a matter of fact, the
updated edition is spread all over my desk right now
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hopefully completed by Monday.
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Mary Rosenblum
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What's that about?
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C Hope Clark
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The secondary title is
"An Introvert's Guide to Writing Success."
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It's about self-promotion for
the shy writer
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however, most who read it
state it's a grand primer for promotion for anyone.
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Mary Rosenblum
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Sounds like something a few of
my students could use.
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jacinda2
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Did I see something about the
Shy Writer in Byline?
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C Hope Clark
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But it's a lesson with tricks
and suggestions for those who hate to market and promote - how to feel
comfortable in your skin.
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Yes you did - had a feature
piece in there a couple of months ago.
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Mary Rosenblum
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Very nice, Hope.
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C Hope Clark
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I've been writing for Byline
for about five years
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jacinda2
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It was very useful - thanks
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C Hope Clark
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At least once a year.
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Thanks so much.
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Mary Rosenblum
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You write quite a few columns
and articles, don't you?
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C Hope Clark
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Outside FundsforWriters - I
write a few.
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I usually list something in
Writers Weekly about every quarter or so.
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Mary Rosenblum
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Do you write full time?
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C Hope Clark
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Yes.
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I financially arranged an
early retirement to write
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Mary Rosenblum
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Good for you!
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Any advice for those aspiring
to full time status?
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C Hope Clark
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Once I wrote part-time for
three years, I saw how to develop enough market to keep me going.
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Oh yes --
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I rant and rave about that.
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I planned for three years to
leave and write fulltime.
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I saved, paid off bills and
reined in my spending to a lower level to compensate for leaving.
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Mary Rosenblum
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(Boy is THAT necessary!)
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C Hope Clark
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I was lucky enough to have
access to an early retirement offer, and I took it though it was low
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it at least covers bills.
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Also...it gave me a health care
plan.
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I tell writers all the time
that the most important thing to have is health care insurance.
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Mary Rosenblum
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No kidding!
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C Hope Clark
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I cannot count the number of
catastrophes I've read about with writers who quit, wrote then wound up
with medical issues.
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They usually ask me for a
grant to get them out of a dilemma.
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Mary Rosenblum
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Yeah, I contribute to both the
MWA and SFWA medical funds!
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C Hope Clark
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And I always have to tell them
bad news.
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forest elf
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It also sounds like it takes a
plan ... and sticking to it.
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C Hope Clark
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Yes - writing freelance is
like another other entrepreneurial endeavor - it takes a business plan.
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Mary Rosenblum
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How do you organize your
writing life, Hope?
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C Hope Clark
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Know where you are going
before you start.
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LOL - I get asked that a lot.
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I write or work in the writing
business at least eight hours a day.
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I'm a night owl, so I work on
emails in the daytime as well as the FFW newsletters - I write at night,
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usually until 2 AM
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Mary Rosenblum
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When do you get up?
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C Hope Clark
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My mystery writing takes place
at night.
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9-10 AM
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I've always been that way -
even when I worked I used to ask my staff to avoid any appointments until
after 10 AM.
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Mary Rosenblum
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Have you received grants for
your projects?
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C Hope Clark
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I'm a dynamic whirlwind in the
evening.
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You know...I've applied a
couple of times for grants, but
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nonfiction is a hard sell if
it isn't humanities related.
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I did make the finalists for a
business grant through Ideacafe.com - who try to hold an annual grant
opportunity.
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Runner up.
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But grants aren't available
for businesses, frankly, and most people see FFW as a business and not
writing
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and I'm not well published in
my fiction, so I'm paying my dues as expected there.
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I'm eying a couple, though.
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forest elf
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How do you look for sources for
grants?
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Mary Rosenblum
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Subscribe to the newsletter,
yes?
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C Hope Clark
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Oh yes,
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newsletters abound.
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I subscribe to the newsletters
of any arts council.
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I also use the Foundation Center - www.fdncenter.org - and use their
newsletters
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Mary Rosenblum
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Ah, that's a thought!
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