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Mary Rosenblum
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Hello all!
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Welcome to our Professional
Connection live interview...the first of the new year!
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I hope you're all enjoying the
mild winter. Ours just reverted to normal Brrr.
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I invited John Caton, my
accountant, here tonight because all new writers wonder just how to handle
taxes.
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John Caton,a CPA, and my
accountant, has been in public accounting since 1970. He is currently the
senior partner in a firm that serves more than 1000 clients, including
writers, musicians, and performing artists. If you are a writer in the eyes
of the IRS, then you can deduct certain expenses, and need to keep
appropriate records.
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Since I don't have the
expertise to answer the tax questions I get, I called in the expert! And
now for a paid announcement by our Internal Revenue Service. Since John is
offering advice about tax matters, he is required to post this disclaimer
put out in Circular 230 by the IRS…in essence it means; just because he
said this, it is not a defense in tax court. Here it is:
IRS Circular 230 Disclaimer: To ensure compliance with IRS
Circular 230, any U.S. federal tax advice provided in this communication is
not intended or written to be used, and it cannot be used by the recipient
or any other taxpayer (i) for the purpose of avoiding tax penalties that
may be imposed on the recipient or any other taxpayer, or (ii) in
promoting, marketing or recommending to another party a partnership or
other entity, investment plan, arrangement or other transaction addressed
herein.
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So, now that we have THAT out
of the way, John, our tax expert...and the man who keeps me on good terms
with the IRS...welcome!
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John Caton, CPA
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Thanks Mary, It is always a
pleasure
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Mary Rosenblum
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I won't tell anyone that I had
to promise to get my tax infor in good time in order to get you to come
here this time of year!
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Ah, I see we've already
received The Burning Question. So let's get right to it!
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ashton
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Welcome, John! When are you
considered a writer in the eyes of the IRS?
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Mary Rosenblum
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Saves me having to ask it! J
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John Caton, CPA
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Okay, I have a bit of long
answer so it will be a bit of read
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Mary Rosenblum
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We're patient.
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John Caton, CPA
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The first few years of any
business are usually the roughest. Some kinds of activities are virtually
never questioned by the IRS, such as a store front retail operation. But
when it comes to activities that are a little out of the ordinary, they
fall back to Code Section 183.
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This IRC states there is a
presumption that if an activity has more than minimal profits for any three
years out of a consecutive five years, it is a business. Otherwise, the
burden of proof that an activity is engaged in for profit is on the taxpayer.
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What this means is you have
act like a business in order to be treated as one. If they decide you are
really a hobby, then your expenses can only be deducted to the extent of
your income. Just having some income does not mean you are automatically a
business.
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Let me give you a real life
example of how you act like a business. Situation is a couple who is
running a stock car on a local track. There are substantial losses for more
than three years and the IRS has become curious (audit).
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They had documents that showed
they were contenders for race prize money, the efforts to obtain sponsors,
and parts dealing. All activities were elements of being in the industry.
They also kept a log or journal of their activities and had a business
plan. One element by itself is not enough to win the case, which we did.
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The code does not say you must
be profitable, just that you must be doing whatever a prudent person would
do to get there. Now, as to how this translates to being a professional
writer.
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The most important thing you
can do is to keep a record of all your activities. That means a log or a
journal of some kind.
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I know how creative people
like to do that kind of thing, but the burden of proof is on you and it is
the only way to protect your backside. Remember, when you stick your head
in the sand, you still leave important parts of your anatomy at great risk.
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You must write and submit for
publishing. Just writing for yourself, your friends, your own publication,
will not be enough. You must try to get it published. Every submittal and
rejection must be kept as evidence you are trying to produce income. The
more the merrier.
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One short story a year will
not win the day. Proof of trying to improve your craft through workshops,
working with a mentor, having or trying to find an agent, adds to your body
of proof.
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Buying and/or reading books to
study other writer’s styles will not carry much weight since that is an
activity that can be considered non-business. There is a possibility of a
deduction if you can establish a direct connection to something you have
produced.
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Having a business card and letterhead
helps, but is only a little piece compared to other activities. A
registered business name or license, like you can do in Washington, could
also help.
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Maintain a journal of what you
do relating to writing each day with an estimate of the amount of time you
put in. This establishes how much time in a year you have put into your
business and helps to record those intangible activities like contacting a
prospective agent.
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There is a test in another
part of the code that considers 500 hours in a year as a minimum for being
active in a business. There is nothing in the hobby rules that addresses
this, but it is a guide and can add to the argument of being serious about
your business.
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I won an audit that went to
tax court because the client kept such a journal. He also wrote a two page
business plan every January outlining what he had learned from prior year
activities and what he was going to do to in the coming year to become
profitable.
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There is a very hazy line
between being an interesting hobby and being a business. The business of
writing is hazier than most. You win this type of argument through the
preponderance of evidence. You have to dazzle them with your brilliance.
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Mary Rosenblum
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Bless you, John, here is one of
the best arguments for getting rejection slips that I have ever seen!
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Actually I still keep that
submission/rejection log as well as records of my calls/conversations with
agents, publicists, and the like.
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hauckston
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Adding to that question, would
you please insert the Canadian version, also?"
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Mary Rosenblum
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Can you help with the Canadian
rules at all?
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John Caton, CPA
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I am afraid I am not well
versed in all the Canadian rules. But my experience is that most of them
are pretty close to the same.
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Mary Rosenblum
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It seems to me that the real
key here is the record keeping. Saying 'I write' is not enough.
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robastor
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Does all of what you said about
being a writer pertain to being a musician as well?
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John Caton, CPA
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When you are in a profession
most people do not understand, you have a much higher burden of proof.
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It pretty well applies to any
of the arts.
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jewel
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I am wondering if I have to file
separately or can I file jointly with my husband?
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John Caton, CPA
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You can file jointly. The
self-employment income is reported on a Schedule C and SE which attaches
and is included with the rest of the Form 1040
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sailor
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Last year was the first year I
used Schedule C for my writing. I sold one article for and carried forward
losses (for computer and furniture) of about ,000. This year, I my writing
income was No further losses, but still carrying forward some old ones.
I've documented all my submissions, rejections, acceptances, and time
spent. Is the IRS likely to be suspicious?
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John Caton, CPA
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They have no reason yet to be
suspicious. The rule is you are considered to be a business if you have net
income for 3 out of the previous 5 years. The first two years are generally
not a problem if there are losses, so if one of them shows a profit you are
okay. I am concerned about the reference to "carrying foreward a
loss". Generally, any losses apply to each year separately.
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robastor
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Could a regularly written blog
page be considered the same as a journal?
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Mary Rosenblum
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What do you think about this,
John?
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John Caton, CPA
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Af the Blog. That should
qualify as a journal if it is specific enough. But, I would keep a hard
copy somewhere. The IRS is not proactive in looking for proof.
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Mary Rosenblum
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Here's clarification on those
losses from Sailor:
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sailor
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I used Turbo Tax. The losses
were Section 79.
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John Caton, CPA
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Oh Okay. Section 179
deductions are allowable only to the point of breaking even. They cannot be
used to create a loss.
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dim writer
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What is a loss?
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Mary Rosenblum
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Time for basic definitions,
here. J
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John Caton, CPA
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A writer that has never experienced
a loss. How interesting. A loss occurs when your expenses exceed your
income. Most beginning businesses are in that position. When you are
self-employed, any loss from the business is deducted against other income
when it goes from Schedule C to the front of the Form 1040.
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Mary Rosenblum
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Some selling writers have been
in that situation, Mary mutters.
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robastor
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To file my taxes, would it be a
good idea to print everything out? Blogs, webpages, press releases;
anything at all dealing with writing and music?
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John Caton, CPA
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I would not bother sending any
of those with the tax return. They will most likely not only not read it,
but throw it out. You need the back up only when you get audited. Preparing
for the audit when you do the tax return is the most successful way to
protect yourself. So keep those hard copy records.
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jewel
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How do you deduct the course
costs from LRW?
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Mary Rosenblum
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I get asked this a lot.
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If you're filing as a writer,
is this deductible?
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John Caton, CPA
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If you are already writing and
submitting, then you can deduct the cost as continuing education. If you
are just getting started and have not submitted anything it is likely the
IRS will treat it initial education for a profession and not allow a
deduction. Just like a Bachelors degree is never deductible as it is
considered basic education. Once you have joined the profession, the same
course work can be considered furthering your ability to be profitable.
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drake
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Missed this one. I have done 2
courses from LRW, and do not believe the first was deducted. Can I go back
this year and do it?
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John Caton, CPA
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You can go back two years and
amend a tax return to get a refund. You use a Form 1040X.
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Mary Rosenblum
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As long as we're on this
subject, Destiny8 had a question in the auditorium but couldn't get it up
here. S(he) wondered if attending the forums and interviews here could be
logged in as hours advancing the business.
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John Caton, CPA
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Absolutely! This is also a
form of continuing education. You are learning more about the business side
of being a writer. I have a client that had a business of renting out sail
boats. We were able to have his time attending boat shows included as being
active in a business.
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Mary Rosenblum
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There you go folks. Now you
have reasons to submit and reasons to show up here. Make a note of your
time here tonight!
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drake
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Isn't logging hours difficult
though?
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Mary Rosenblum
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Do you have any suggestions for
the best method to impress the auditor?
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I have to admit that keeping
logs can be a pain. But I have won many audits, including one that was
taken to Tax Court, because the client keep an excellent log of all his
business related activities.
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Mary Rosenblum
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I have a couple of questions
about self publishing. More and more people are doing this.
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info
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What if a author self publishes
through a Print On Demand publisher? Is that enough for the IRS if you
publish that way in addition to submitting to regular publishing houses?
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John Caton, CPA
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By itself, going through a
Print On Demand publisher will not win the day. There are a lot of hobbyists
that are doing that. It is the preponderance of evidence that wins. So
doing it all is what counts. Of course, if you sell enough self-published
material, it might work. There is no clear cut measure.
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drake
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Last year I paid a subsidy press
to publish a book and it is now in process. Would I be able to deduct any
of that?
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John Caton, CPA
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This gets a qualified yes. If
you are paying to have it printed, you are now a publisher as well as a
writer. You can deduct the costs that relate to the books sold. You have to
keep track of all your expenses for publishing If you have 100 books
printed and you sell 40, you can deduct 200$. The rest of the cost is part
of your inventory and can be deducted when it is either sold or discarded.
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ashton
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So you just make note of the
time you are here and the IRS will believe you? I mean, there's no real
proof... but gosh, am I HAPPY to learn attending these forums is a form of
continuing my education in their eyes cause I love it here! Cool! Do
something you love and get credit for it.
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Mary Rosenblum
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And Destiny8 has a suggestion.
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destiny8
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Get a DayTimer -- Log all time
daily, total monthly, easy.
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John Caton, CPA
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Nowhere is the Internal
Revenue Code does it say you can not enjoy your work. Do keep in mind that
they have seen a lot of fiction in their own right. Your log or journal has
be supported by proof of your activities.
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drake
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So I can deduct the money from
last year? Sorry – I’m a bit thick as the book has just been layout approved
and hasn't been printed yet but will be soon.
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John Caton, CPA
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If the money was to print
something, it is deducted when you sell the books. If it is for other
services such as advising you in some way, it is deductible when you pay
it.
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gail
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My better-half and I are
currently working jointly (on-spec) on non-fiction writing that sells best
with photos. My guy takes most of the photos, while I do the written work.
He works outside the home and, other than writing freelance, I do not have
"outside" employment. Is it okay for me to claim the (as-yet)
infrequent photography sales as my own income, or does my guy need to claim
this as other income?
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John Caton, CPA
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This is a little touchy, but
if the photo sales connect to your writing, you should be able to claim the
income on your own Schedule C. The expenses do have to be paid by you to
get the deduction. Otherwise, he has a business of his own and should
report on his own Schedule C
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robastor
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Filing for the first time as a
writer/musician, which form do I use?
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John Caton, CPA
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As a self-employed, you use
Schedule C and Schedule SE to report your income and expenses. The Schedule
SE is used to calculate your self-employment tax. Self-Employment tax is
Social Security and Medicare for the Self Employed. The SE tax is
calculated on your net (after expenses) income. The rate is 15.3%.
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robastor
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Should I save all expense
receipts with those hard copies of pages? Don't send copies with the tax
return?
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John Caton, CPA
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I would save receipts as well.
They are your proof of your expenses. Do not send any to the IRS as it will
not matter at that point.
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info
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What about things such as paper,
pens/pencils, memory sticks or other data storage devices? Beings they are
a part of my writing ventures, would I be able to deduct them as business
related?
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John Caton, CPA
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Certainly! Any direct expense
is allowable as long as it is primarily used for the business.
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robastor
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If I'm using the Internet as my
primary tool to sell and promote myself, is the monthly charge something I
can deduct?
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John Caton, CPA
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As long as your primary use is
for the business, yes. I would suggest not taking the entire amount as
there may be some personal use involved and the IRS likes to see people
take that into consideration.
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Do not forgot about other
expenses like research costs and travel expenses.
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Mary Rosenblum
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Speaking of travel expenses:
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gail
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I aspire do some travel-writing.
What, if any, travel expenses could I deduct, and is that dependant upon
whether or not the article sells?
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John Caton, CPA
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Travel expenses are
interesting and like walking a tight rope. If you can connect the travel
with your work, it is deductible. Aaron Elkins writes mysteries located
through the Northwest and the world. Since the locale plays an important
part of the story (it is obvious he has been to the various locations),
then I have no doubt he has deducted his costs.
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The costs of anyone
accompanying him would most likely not pass the same test. It does not
matter if the article sells as long as you can prove you did everything
possible to sell it.
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newbewriter
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If I have a web site and pay
monthly fees are they deductible?
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John Caton, CPA
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If the web site is about you
as a writer and is a method to promote yourself and your work, then it
should be deducible. I did have to caution a client when he told me he was
trying to expose himself on the Internet. There are some limits.
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destiny8
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I photograph for NF articles.
Submit just the best. What Xf film and processing cost is deductible?
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John Caton, CPA
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As long as all you shoot is to
be considered for submission, then you should be able to take it all.
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Mary Rosenblum
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I think we'd better open the
'home office' can of worms here. J
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dim writer
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If you have a home office, can
you deduct anything on that?
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John Caton, CPA
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A home office can be deducted
if it is used 100% for business use. The expenses that apply are rent,
mortgage interest, property taxes, insurance, utilities, repairs and
maintenance. The square footage of the office as a percentage of the total
space available is applied to get the deductible amount.
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Mary Rosenblum
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But that means it can't have a
daybed, and that extra chest of drawers in it, right?
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John Caton, CPA
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The 100% test is the one that
most people fail. A kitchen table doesn't work. A separate room usually
works as long as it is not used for anything else.
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Auto usage is another
deduction that can yield great benefits.
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You must keep a log of your
use including what the trip was for and the mileage. The easy deduction is
using the mileage at $ 0.44 per mile for 2006 and for 2007. Since your
place of business is likely to be your home, any time you leave to go to
the post office, or (hopefully) the bank, or to attend a conference or
workshop, do research or anything else where the principle reason for the
trip relates to the business will count. The record keeping is a must.
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Mary Rosenblum
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Isn't there now a medical
deduction, too?
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Mary Rosenblum
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for auto use I mean?
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John Caton, CPA
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There is a provision for a
medical deduction for mileage. I believe it is now at $0.18 per mile. Not
much.
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Mary Rosenblum
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Rob asked this question right
after you commented on the photo expenses being deductible if the photos
were submitted for publication.
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robastor
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Would the same apply to making a
music video?
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John Caton, CPA
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I can not say I have seen that
done, but the principle is the same. You produce something for sale, the
cost is deductible . The only problem I see here is that the IRS would
likely treat it the same as feature length movies and consider your costs
as inventory and let you deduct it only when sold or discarded.
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robastor
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Does the expense of hiring a
promoter fall into the deduction guidelines you've talked about?
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John Caton, CPA
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Yes it does. If you are paying
them a fee for services, then it is a current expense and deductible.
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robastor
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So, a video used for music
promotion falls outside the deductions, correct?
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John Caton, CPA
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So much depends on what is
being produced. If it is a promotional item where all it does is to try and
sell something, them it is a current deduction. If it is a music video that
is to showcase the music and is available for sale such as any you see on
TV, then it becomes inventory. This is assuming you are trying to sell
multiple copies of the video. As you can see, there is a fine line here.
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gail
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This may sound frivolous,
but....if I wanted to attend a conference, I would need some
"professional-looking" attire. Would that cost be deductible if I
used the attire only for professional events?
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Mary Rosenblum
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Now here's an interesting
question!
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John Caton, CPA
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Unfortunately, the only
clothing that is deductible are uniforms. Anything that can be considered
normal street wear, is not accepted.
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A court case involved a woman
who managed a high fashion house in New
York City. She was required to buy and
wear the type of clothes they sold. She deducted $5,000 as a business
related expense because she did not normally wear that type of clothing
except on the job.
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She lost the case because she
could have worn the clothes anywhere and no one would have known where she
was employed or what she did.
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Mary Rosenblum
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Whew. Boy would I have kicked
myself....
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sailor
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I know someone who claimed
depreciation on his house because of his home office. Can't that come back
to haunt you if you sell the house later on, such as increasing the capital
gains?
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John Caton, CPA
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Good thought! But it is an old
rule now. Congress, in one of their many "fixes" of the code,
changed the rule a few years ago to where the business portion of the house
does not come back to bite you...
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too hard anyway. Any
depreciation claimed does get recaptured in the sale and generate taxable
income. The appreciation on the business portion is now considered to still
be personal residence appreciation and likely to fit within the or
exclusion.
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sailor
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Re penalties, isn't it true that
the IRS considers an improper deduction as a "slap on the wrist"
violation, but they get really irate if they find you not reporting income?
I know penalties apply either way, but hiding income can get you into tax
court.
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John Caton, CPA
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They are on a ''quest" to
catch under reporters of income. In either case, if the amount of
adjustment is too much or if they consider the error to be an intentional
act to disregard the rules, they can add some pretty hefty penalties.
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It is not likely you would go
to tax court unless you fought the penalty that far. A basic rule of tax
planning: Pigs get fat, Hogs get slaughtered.
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jewel
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I am a full time RVer writing
about RVing and I am writing about this. Can travel expenses be deducted,
such as RV park costs, because I will be mentioning them?
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John Caton, CPA
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As a full timer, your tax home
is your RV. So the only expenses that would be allowable would be those
over and above your normal costs. Of course, you do have a home office
issue. The problem is there likely not enough room to have a space
dedicated 100% to business. It is possible though.
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gail
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From a "recovering"
(Canadian) accountant, I've just got to say, I LOVE your sense of humour!
Nice surprise (considering some of the extremely dry accounting
conferences/seminars I attended.)
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Mary Rosenblum
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Take a bow, John!
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John Caton, CPA
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Thanks. I never try to take
myself too seriously. Besides, life is too short.
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Mary Rosenblum
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This one sounds a bit
complicated, John. To me anyway!
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drake
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My husband paid for my schooling
and I haven't worked in nearly six years. He also paid for the subsidy
publisher, we file jointly, how would we do this?
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John Caton, CPA
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Hmmmm, let me think a moment
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First of all, I am not sure
where the schooling comes into this. As far as reporting for taxes, it is a
joint tax return and it does not really matter who pays as long as the
expense is business related. I assume you are already reporting as a
self-employed writer, so the expense would show on your own Schedule C. If
the expense is to print your book which you will be selling, then we are back
to the inventory issue talked about earlier.
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Mary Rosenblum
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John, I did have a couple of
questions I was sent by email. Let me pop them in here before you expire of
finger-exhaustion!
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This is from Janelle: How, or
do you, declare contest prizes you won if they aren't money? For example: a
trip, or membership in a particular organization? It couldn't really be put
on your 1040 as income.
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John Caton, CPA
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Prizes are considered income.
A trip has a definite value and the contest operator is supposed to provide
the winner with a Form 1099 to show the amount. It is supposed to be to you
by Jan. 31. Membership in an organization may fall under the diminimus
rules where the value is not more than $25 and would not be income. If it
does not relate to a business, then the income is reported on the line for
other income.
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Mary Rosenblum
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I have one final email question
from Mary Kay here:
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Does he have any suggestions
how to document deductions and expenses since banks (or some, including
mine, unfortunately!) now do not return cancelled checks?
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Gee. My bank doesn't either.
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John Caton, CPA
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This Check 21 business is a
real pain to accountants. I won't say where. It is a problem. Most banks
will provide photo copies of checks with their statements. That would be
the best you can do these days. Otherwise, it is a matter of maintaining a
good check register and keep the bank statements that show the checks were
cashed.
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The receipts for the
expenditure becomes even more important now. Those are the only record of
what the expense is for. The IRS is aware of the problem and are trying to
be more accepting of this limitation.
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Mary Rosenblum
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Or use a credit card? Isn't
that an acceptable paper trail? If you keep your statements?
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dim writer
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Separate accounts? Home and
business?
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John Caton, CPA
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A credit card is a good record
of the payment. You must keep the statements as part of your financial
records though. I am amazed at how many people throw them out as soon as
they pay it. Yes. Thanks for bringing that up, dim. One of the best things
to do when you are operating a small business is to keep the income and
expenses separate. A separate bank account and credit card are a must.
Otherwise, it is easy to get things mixed up. Besides. if you are a
business, you have separate business accounts.
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hauckston
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In the future, banks are working
on a system whereby you can go online and see an image of your check saved
in their archives and the Canadian system will be ready for that phase in
about six months... still working on it.
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Mary Rosenblum
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Actually my credit union has
that.
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You can see both sides of the
check.
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On last question and then I'll
shut off the tap here! J
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gail
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I mainly use my
business-account's debit-card for purchases, and keep the store receipt.
However, debit slips fade quickly. Will the receipt, and the bank statement
(which indicates the pertinent debit,) be sufficient if audited years
later?
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John Caton, CPA
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Normally, audits occur within
6 to 18 months after the return is filed. So you shouldn't have to worry
about years. Between the bank statement and receipt, you should be alright
anyway.
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Mary Rosenblum
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John you have been great! Thank
you so much for being so patient with us all.
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tolkienlvr
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Wow, this is a great forum!
Super information! Thanks so much, John!
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ashton
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We sure appreciate you coming
tonight, John. We've learned a lot.
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hauckston
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Thank you both, Mary and John...
very informative.
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Mary Rosenblum
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It was a great forum!
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Thank you SO much for coming
and now I have to get my tax info in to you. :-)
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dim writer
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Thanks John.
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John Caton, CPA
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If there are more questions,
they can be sent to Mary and forwarded to me. I can answer them by e-mail.
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hauckston
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thank you for sacrificing
yourself for us Mary
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Mary Rosenblum
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LOL!
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That's very generous of you,
John. Good night and have a good tax season!
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And thank you all for coming.
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