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Action, Action, Action: Writing the Action Scene 6/6/08



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Mary Rosenblum

Hello all!

Mary Rosenblum

The most common flaw I see in action scenes is simply wordiness.

Mary Rosenblum

The more you want to increase dramatic impact, the fewer words you need to use.

Mary Rosenblum

If the scene is plodding along anyway...the army is on the march...this is a perfectly good time for your soldier POV to

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be chatting with a buddy about the forthcoming battle or gloomily remembering backstory.

Mary Rosenblum

You can keep reminding the readers of the action but nothing much is really going on so you just need those reminders: plod, plod, plod, past a house, past a burned out barn, plod, plod, rotting body, plod plod.

Mary Rosenblum

In that sort of scene, action is the backbone that moves the plot forward but the dialogue or internal narrative is more important.

Mary Rosenblum

So the action takes back seat to those other things.

Mary Rosenblum

But in a scene where the action is meant to fully engage the readers...a fight, a chase scene, an intense moment of reaction...

Mary Rosenblum

you do not want that wordiness. The action takes stage front and anything else needs to get out of the picture.

Mary Rosenblum

This is NOT the time to try introducing more backstory to the readers!

Mary Rosenblum

I really love the scenes I get where Prince Majoram strides into the clearing where the evil Onyx Knight awaits. The Knight swings, Prince parries and then the Prince thinks about how

Mary Rosenblum

he first met the Knight when they were both squires to old Sir Bamboozle. And this goes on and I"m rolling my eyes thinking 'Sonny, you have already had your legs chopped out from under you while you're nattering...'

Mary Rosenblum

And that, of course, is the effect.

Mary Rosenblum

When you throw in dialogue or internal narrative, the action tends to grind to a halt until you're done.

Mary Rosenblum

This is not particularly realistic in a fight scene. Who is thinking about the past? If you plan on eating breakfast tomorrow, you're worried about where your opponent's sword is right now.

Mary Rosenblum

And keeping it THERE instead of HERE in your gizzard.

Mary Rosenblum

So those interrupted action scenes really lend the story a strong sense of unreality. Not real good.

Mary Rosenblum

Set your backstory up BEFORE the action scene. By the time the POV character falls off the cliff, gets into the fight, or leaps frantically for the departing bi-plane, you want the readers to know everything they need

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to know so that they can simply follow the action with their collective breaths held.

Mary Rosenblum

On the flip side of this, when the action is merely the motor driving the scene along as your characters talk backstory, don't forget that action!

Mary Rosenblum

I see so many talking heads scenes!

Mary Rosenblum

The characters talk and talk and talk and talk and we see....nada.

Mary Rosenblum

Nothing.

Mary Rosenblum

The effect is a thick gray fog with voices filtering out of the fog.

Mary Rosenblum

Use 'action tags'...tag lines that identify the speaker through that character's actions rather than 'he said'...to keep a sense of action in the scene.

crystalwizard

they're frozen in place, spitting out dialog, not even twitching an eyelid.

Mary Rosenblum

Yeah, but after a brief time they vanish completely! Then there's nothing left to see at all! :-)

Mary Rosenblum

The scene fades away if you, the author, don't renew it by reminding readers that it's there.

Mary Rosenblum

And it's easy NOT to do. You, the author, see the scene clearly in your mind's eye. You don't need those reminders. So you don't put them in there.

Mary Rosenblum

Part of getting better at writing is learning to develop a split personality so that you can read like someone who has never met these characters before, has no idea what this world looks like.

Mary Rosenblum

It takes practice. And even when you're good at it (which I pretty much am at this point) you still need real 'clear eyes'. I always miss things. My readers catch 'em.

coffeeman

could you give an example of an action tag line? Thanks.

Mary Rosenblum

Sure, coffeeman. Apologies. I meant to and got distracted.

Mary Rosenblum

"You reall think you're hot don't you?" She leaned her elbows on the bar, one eyebrow rising. "You're gonna get cut down to size one of these days."

Mary Rosenblum

That's a pretty long 'action tag' and it includes her expression as well as her body language. They can be short, too.

Mary Rosenblum

"So you say." He knocked back his shot.

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"I don't know." He shrugged.

Mary Rosenblum

You mix up body language so that we can guage the speakers' emotions with visual glimpses of the scene.

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"I don't know." He tossed his hat onto the battered table. "You tell me."

rae

"Forms? My wife and son are missing, and you want me to fill out forms?" He stood staring blankly at the clip board. Is this a good example?

Mary Rosenblum

Yes. WE have the visual glimpse of the clipboard so readers will fill in the police precinct or whereever you have put him.

Mary Rosenblum

A single visual glimpse reminds readers of the scene.

Mary Rosenblum

And we have his body language...that blank stare at the clipboard.

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Clearly he is stunned by this bureaucratic request in his moment of crisis.

charie'

Don't the action details in a dialogue scene need to push the story, too? Not just "walks, looks, talks"

Mary Rosenblum

Yes. The action details need to provide emotional tone (body language) as well a sense of place and rising tension if you are raising the tension.

Mary Rosenblum

Your choice of words as the heroes tiptoe through the haunted house can rachet up the tension as you create a sense of increasing threat.

crystalwizard

"I am not," Marcus glared at his dog, "going to take you for a walk."

Mary Rosenblum

Body language. We hear Marcus's tone.

Mary Rosenblum

Now all these examples are great for the 'plod plod' scene where you have time to build emotional nuance and slip in backstory, create atmosphere.

Mary Rosenblum

They are NOT good techniques when your character is leaping for that taxiing bi-plane with death at her heels.

sailor

But we're often told to start our story right in the middle of things, so backstory has to come afterward. I agree, though, not in the middle of a fight!

Mary Rosenblum

Oh, starting your story with a fight/flight scene is THE hardest way to do it in my estimation. It's a GREAT way to start, but very hard just for that reason.

Mary Rosenblum

You cannot stop the action to slip in backstory, but if the readers are confused, the impact is lost.

Mary Rosenblum

So you have to carefully set up the scene so that readers learn what they need to know through the actions of the fight.

Mary Rosenblum

That's HARD but readers don't need to know much in a first scene. Mostly they want to know 'whose side are we on here?'.

Mary Rosenblum

Normally that is your POV character, so you want to be dead certain that your limited third POV is strong enough to make your POV character very clear.

Mary Rosenblum

That's not always easy to do in a strong action scene.

Mary Rosenblum

It is much more difficult to write a strong action scene well in first person, by the way.

charie'

"Yes, you are" Fifi curled back a lip. "Remember your favorite golf shoes?"

Mary Rosenblum

Another nice use of body language to reveal tone of voice here, ie emotional nuance.

rae

It is not easy in 3rd person either. Larry walked over to Dean and touched him with his foot. Dean reached up and grabbed Larry's foot, pulling him to the ground. Larry and Dean struggled with the gun and then it sounded.

Mary Rosenblum

It is hard and this is what I see a lot, Rae. It's distanced.

Mary Rosenblum

That is, where are we to see this? Standing back at the edge of the room. You create a compelling action scene, one that leaves readers breathless and shaky right along

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with your POV character when you hurl them right into the scene.

Mary Rosenblum

You do that by bringing your narrative distance down to zero.

Mary Rosenblum

Otherwise, we're safe, watching the action on the TV screen ho hum.

Mary Rosenblum

Write it from Larry's head. Climb in. What's Larry thinking, feeling, aware of here?

Mary Rosenblum

Larry nudge Dean with his foot. Dead? Dean erupted and Larry fell backward, rolling, clawing for the gun. Felt cool metal, grabbed at it, belly clenching as the barrel twisted in his fingers. No, God, no. He twisted it back, nails skidding across flesh. Heat seared his face, ears rang with the blast.

Mary Rosenblum

He fell forward, still clutching the gun, realized numbly he was lying on Dean's chest. Wetness soaked his shirt. Warm, wetness.

Mary Rosenblum

This is me thinking 'what is Larry aware of right now?"

Mary Rosenblum

And right now readers don't know...and neither does Larry yet...whose blood he's feeling.

Mary Rosenblum

Well, we do know, since he's lying on top of Dean.

Mary Rosenblum

But if you can reduce an intense action scene to what your POV is seeing hearing thinking it can become very powerful.

Mary Rosenblum

Think about falling off a swing as a kid, crashing your bike, any moment of trauma you can dredge up.

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What do you remember seeing? Thinking? Hearing?

Mary Rosenblum

In intense life and death situations, the focus narrows to a kind of tunnel vision.

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We see what we need to see to survive.

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The soldier running for the enemy line may not even feel the bullet that hits him. The man dragging his friend out of a burning building won't see the whole scene...just the man, the flaming obstacles that block his path, the only route to the safety of the door.

Mary Rosenblum

So when you describe other things...you push us safely out of the scene. And thus reduce the power.

speckledorf

I edited a piece yesterday where in the middle of fleeing a battle the pirate stopped to admire her perfect breasts, think about how they had ruined many men's lives, flirt with a soldier then get upset with him when he pushed her away. After calling him names, she got back to the business of escaping.

Mary Rosenblum

Exactly! I always giggle.

Mary Rosenblum

The pirate now has six inches of steel in his back from the pursuing pirate!

crystalwizard

opening sentence from Reluctant Assassin: A loud thunk startled Ahren from his sleep.

Mary Rosenblum

THat's a good way to introduce an action start. As Ahren wakes up he's gonig to see the surroundings and maybe take a second to recollect where he is.

Mary Rosenblum

That's enough backstory to go on if he then launches into a fight or a fast escape. You can pick up the backstory when he takes a breather.

Mary Rosenblum

The hardest start is when you drop the readers into the midst of a battle.

Mary Rosenblum

There your POV character has no realistic time to spare to think about anything except how to stay alive a few more minutes.

Mary Rosenblum

So about all you can do is let the readers assume that the POV is the good guy, the people trying to kill him or her are the bad guys and it'll get sorted out shortly!

Mary Rosenblum

Use action to change the pace of your story.

Mary Rosenblum

As the scene starts, your POV may have time to notice more details around him or her, to think about what is going on.

Mary Rosenblum

As the intensity of the scene increases, he/she is more concerned with surviving, and the visual details the internal narrative drops away until you come to the climax of the scene

Mary Rosenblum

and then, as everybody catches their breath, you can include more visuals more internal narrative.

Mary Rosenblum

And more dialogue.

crystalwizard

The first rock missed my nose. The second one slammed into my foot and the third pushed me off the edge of the cliff. What a way to start the day!

Mary Rosenblum

That's good first person narrative...what I call 'after the fact' narrative.

Mary Rosenblum

We know the narrator survived.

Mary Rosenblum

And here, where the tone is clearly on the light side, it works.

Mary Rosenblum

It's hard to do first person POV where the readers aren't sure if the main character will live to the end of the story or not. You can do it. It's harder.

Mary Rosenblum

Generally, if your story involves a lot of action and dialogue and not a lot of internal musing, you're better off to use third person.

Mary Rosenblum

First person is great when you have to explain a LOT to the readers or your character is very internal and will be spending a lot of time in his or her own head.

Mary Rosenblum

Then you might as well let the POV do the talking directly to the readers rather than trying to use a ton of internal narrative and keep the pacing strong.

crystalwizard

The wolf pauses, curious that the man figure seated in front of the small fire has made no move to flee.

Mary Rosenblum

Yes. If you're going to make the readers doubt whether your POV will survive or not, you really do need to use present tense.

Mary Rosenblum

I tend to use present tense most of the time when I do first person.

Mary Rosenblum

You can get away with that where present tense in third person really bugs readers. :-)

Mary Rosenblum

Then don't really notice it in first person for some reason.

Mary Rosenblum

The main thing with action scenes is to use common sense.

Mary Rosenblum

Would your POV notice this right now?

Mary Rosenblum

If the answer is no, the don't include it.

Mary Rosenblum

I spend a lot of time on action scenes asking myself every step of the way...is this what my character sees? What does he feel here? What is he aware of as this happens?

Mary Rosenblum

What do you feel as you fall, what do you feel as you hit?

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What do you feel as that knife slashes your arm?

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The more I can make the readers share the moment, the more intense the scene will be.

Mary Rosenblum

Nearly all novice writers put the readers into theater seats and show the scene on the screen. What you want to do is to toss the readers smack into the scene.

Mary Rosenblum

When I finish a jungle scene and I feel like I need to go take a shower, the author did a really fine job.

Mary Rosenblum

When I"m breathless after a fight scene or a wild chase or a near fall from a cliff, the author did a good job.

crystalwizard

The tantalizing smell of baking bread wafted past John's nose. He winced and pressed hard on his stomach, a tear trickling from the corner of his eye.

Mary Rosenblum

That's pretty external, wiz. Put us into John's nose. How does HE register the smell of bread? I wouldn't be thinking 'the smell of bread is wafting past my nose'.

Mary Rosenblum

Nice words, but they're author words not John's awareness here.

Mary Rosenblum

How does he feel his eyes tearing?

Mary Rosenblum

I mostly feel mine burn, know that I'm tearing up.

Mary Rosenblum

I have to be bawling before I notice the feel of water trickling down my face.

Mary Rosenblum

It's very hard to step into a character's head.

Mary Rosenblum

Takes a lot of work, but when you can do it, you can really bring your characters to life.

rae

How long would you say it takes before zero narrative really sinks in. I mean, I try, but don't always succeed.

Mary Rosenblum

You're doing it very well. You get better at it the more you do it. When I read some of my early published fiction I could go back and do it better than I did it then. Hopefully I"ll always keep getting better. :-)

Mary Rosenblum

That should be everybody's goal. Right?

speckledorf

John took a deep breath sucking in the aroma of yeast and rye. His stomach rumbled, he grimaced and clutched his stomach. Eyes burning, his vision blurred as a warm tear trickled down his cheek.

janecj333

Are we giving examples? :) Bread. Ick. Yeasty, leathery, bland. John wanted steak, steak and mushrooms with roasted pan gravy, and he wasn't settling for any old dry crust no matter which famous baker had stuck it in a pan.

Mary Rosenblum

Those are both good. :-)

crystalwizard

depends on your target audience.

Mary Rosenblum

Depends on what your intent is, too. I've read some very strong narrative fiction where the author tells the entire story and the readers are still engaged with the characters.

Mary Rosenblum

There is no one right way to do everything. :-) That's what I love so much about writing. It simply has to work. Only rule.

Mary Rosenblum

Well, I'm glad the lights came back on here in time for the Forum. :-)

Mary Rosenblum

I'll post the transcripts in the usual place: Writing Craft: Forum Transcript. See you all Sunday for our casual chat and I'll see if I can get Deborah to join us.

Mary Rosenblum

She's been my guest here before and enjoyed it, so she'll probably drop in.

Mary Rosenblum

You all have a good weekend, meanwhile! If you've got any spare sun, send it westward, will you?

 

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