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Rights, Rights, Rights!



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Mary Rosenblum

hello all.

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Welcome to our Friday After Hours Forum.

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I gather, from the rather crowded auditorium out there that 'rights' is a topic of interest.

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Good!

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Very few novice writers understand what they own and how to offer it and protect it.

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And that lack of knowlege can bite you in the butt, bigtime.

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Essentially, you own your copyright from the moment you hit a typewriter key, save your work to disk, or write it on a page with a pencil.

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Unless you sell your transfer your copyright, nobody can use those words without your permission.

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As writers, we grant publishers permission to use our words...for pay.

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But you do NOT want to sell those words.

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You only want to sell permission to publish them as a book, once, or as a story, once, or to put them up on a website for a limited time.

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You still own those words and once that publisher has exercised that permission...published your story on the web or in a magazine, published your book....

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you need to be able to resell those words.

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Well, let me rephrase that...

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to resell permission to use those words.

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Some of my stories have been published in five or six magazines or anthologies.

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Some articles re republished in several magazines, websites, or even textbooks.

sailor

Lesson: Remember the I Love Lucy show? Lucy & Desi bought the early episodes for next to nothing from CBS because CBS thought, who would ever want to watch the same show again? Lucy & Desi made tons off those reruns.

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There are many lessons out there. :-)

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Ken Kesey sold the movie rights to Sometimes a Great Notion to the publisher and when it was made into a movie and became a blockbuster he got nothing.

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The publisher got it.

kolanda

mary, I read somewhere that editors know you are a novice writer if you use the copyright symbol and that can cause them not to read your ms

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Sharon, you have to understand that an editor is always looking for new talent. And they don't care if a really good story is written by a pro or a newbie.

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BUT...if your presentation says 'amateur' and the first paragraph says 'amateur' guess how much farther that editor will read?

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If the presentation says 'amateur' and the first paragraph blows her away, that editor could care less if you never wrote a word before this story.

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Editors read a LOT of slush. Think 'three strikes against you'.

sailor

I know if a contract asks for more rights than I want to sell, I can negotiate. But I never submit to a market with guidelines that say they want all rights. I assume they will not negotiate. Do you think that's true?

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That depends, sailor. Some new ezines are started by people who have NO clue about writers. They're amateur editors.

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And they're trying to make things simple so that they don't make a mistake and run into legal trouble.

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They may be willing to negotiate.

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If you're writing something you don't ever plan to use anywhere again and you want to do all rights, why not?

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I do work for hire from time to time. (The Long Ridge novel course was a work for hire project).

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That's fine. I do the work, I get paid, they're not my words anymore.

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But if it's a story or something that could sell in other markets, don't sell all rights.

quixote

I don't think the question was answered: is it wise to ose the © copyright symbol in the manuscript?

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It says you are an amateur, quixote. It only has legal meaning if you have registerred the material with the US Copyright Office.

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Otherwise you're using it incorrectly and it means nothing.

barbiq

I have seen alot of people ask about applying for a formal coypwrite from the gov't. Is that wise? or just a waste of money and time?

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If you think that at some point this work will be legally challenged, it is a good idea to register the copyright.

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I don't do it for my fiction.

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If I was writing something controversial that was likely to gain a lot of national or international attention or arouse a lot of emotion, I probably would.

rslnwife

Do you mean challenged as your actual words or something else?

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Challenged as in someone tries to copy your work, or claims that they wrote and you didnt.

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That sort of challenge.

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It's what prevents other authors from writing Sherlock Holmes stories without getting permission from the heirs.

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I don't need to register my copyright to prove it, if I have documentary proof of when I wrote the work.

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And I do.

kolanda

wasn't there a big challenge like that with the Divinci Code or one of the big books?

Mary Rosenblum

Thanks, Kolanda. I was going to bring that up. :-)

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The DaVinci code was challenged by someone who wrote a nonfiction book about that same idea. Yeah, the author probably read that book. BUT....you cannot copyright ideas.

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He did not use words from the book. The judge threw out the case. It was clearly a matter of the accusers hoping for a quick cash settlement from the publisher.

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It was a 'nuisance' case. Stephen King and other top selling writers get those all the time.

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This is the actual wording:

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For works created after January 1, 1978, copyright protection will endure for the life of the author plus an additional 70 years. In the case of a joint work, the term lasts for 70 years after the last surviving author¹s death. For anonymous and pseudonymous works and works made for hire, the term will be 95 years from the year of first publication or 120 years from the year of creation, whichever expires first;

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Your heirs can reregister the copyright if they choose. :-)

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Doyle's heirs have done so.

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Keep Sherlock out of your fiction!

barbiq

When should a writer be concerned about being legally challenged? Should we worry over every word we write?

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You shouldn't. That's my point.

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It CAN happen.

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Marion Zimmer Bradley lost a novel when a fan claimed that she had stolen the story from a manuscript she had given to Bradley to critque, and sued the publisher.

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Does that happen often?

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That's the only case I actually know of.

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And there was a big personal problem between the women to begin with.

tigger

When you write a blog online, do you lose your rights to them? Do they go into the public domain?

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No, you NEVER lose your rights by publishing.

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You ONLY lose your rights by signing them away in a contract.

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You ARE publishing your words on a blog. They are copyrighted.

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IF someone quotes you, you can ask them to remove those words from their webpage or whereever. Technically they are violating your copyright.

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As are YOU if you copy an image from google and post it on your website.

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Now you're not going to sue people because they are protected by 'fair use' laws.

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I can post that picture on my blog and I'm not doing for profit, not selling that image. So I can use it.

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If I use those images in a book I'm selling, I had darn well better get permission from the photographer.

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I had to submit a written release from a friend who took the author's photo for one of my books.

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Otherwise my publisher couldnt' use it.

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So, quixote, you are covered. Your use of the don's name is fair use.

kolanda

I recently referred to "Nancy Drew" books in a short story, but it was only in dialogue and I didn't quote anything is that acceptable?

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Titles aren't copyrightable, neither are references to books, unless you libel the author somehow.

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If you include chapters of Nancy Drew in your book...that's another matter.

tory

I see many writers post a few pages of a WIP on their wegbsite or blog. does this compromise their copyright for the entire book? Must they tell pubs. it is there? (Though I'd think pubs would like the help with marketing!)

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No.

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Publishers are usually happy to have you post chunks of your book on your website.

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If you post the entire book up there, it's published.

jitterbug

What kind of documentation do u need to do to cover yourself

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Proof that you wrote the book at a certain time. Is it saved on your harddrive?

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That's dated.

mmmmmm6

What about writing you may post on a website or blog?

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That is your copyright.

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And it's also published.

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But that only means you can't offer 'first rights' to a publisher.

rslnwife

When you are trying to get published for the first time is it so horrible to sell all rights?

Mary Rosenblum

Not necessarily....although some folk will gasp in horror as I type this.

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You can never use that story again, or those characters or that universe.

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For a fiction piece, that could have repercussions.

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But it's very tempting to make that first sale.

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I am not found of the words 'always' and 'never' but do think about the fact that these characters and this universe are closed to you forever.

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For NF it's less of a headache.

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You can't use any part of this particular article ever again, but you can use the same facts and writer other articles.

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Newspapers generally take all rights because they syndicate some stuff.

sailor

If you did not already know Sherlock was protected by copyright, how can you find out w/o hiring a lawyer?

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YOu can do a search at the US copyright office or you can pay them 65 dollars an hour to search for you. :-)

destiny8

Can I sell all rights and write another version I will own?

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With different characters and major changes, yes.

kolanda

I recently referred to Nancy Drew books in a short story, but only referenced the book, did not use any of it. Is that acceptable?

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Yep, that's fine.

cjwmahrus

What about posting your work on your own website?

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Here is the US copyright office definition of 'Published'.

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Publication has a technical meaning in copyright law. According to the statute, "Publication is the distribution of copies or phonorecords of a work to the public by sale or other transfer of ownership, or by rental, lease, or lending. The offering to distribute copies or phonorecords to a group of persons for purposes of further distribution, public performance, or public display constitutes publication. A public performance or display of a work does not of itself constitute publication." Generally, publication occurs on the date on which copies of the work are first made available to the public.

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Since the public has access to your website, and the material can be copied and distribuited, it's published in the eyes of copyright law.

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If you do a reading at a conference, that is performance. Not published.

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If you post a work in progress on a passworded critique site like Storycrafters, that is private -- available to members only -- and is not considered to be published

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anymore than if I hand out five copies of my story to my writers group.

tory

Can you clarify, Mary. You are violating coopyright to poast a photo from Google, but you can do it?

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If you are not selling it, tory.

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If you are using it for your own purpose -- on your website, say -- it is covered under 'Fair Use' law.

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Let's say I find a cool photo of the Orion nebula and I put it on my website. That's fine.

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Now let's say I want to use that photo to create a bookmark to promote my books.

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I have to get permission from the author. I'm using that photo to advertise work for sale.

ltsonya

What is non-exclusive electronic rights? Does this also mean they completely own the electronic rights (you can't republish on the web after X amount of time)?

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No, you have it backward, ltsonya. :-) That means the purchaser is NOT buying exclusive rights to that piece. You can publish it elsewhere at the same time AS LONG AS THAT PUBLISHER BUYS NONEXCLUSIVE RIGHTS, TOO.

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Exclusive rights means 'only here, nowhere else'.

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Let's say I sell anthology rights to a 'Best of the Year' anthology. I do that fairly often.

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They buy 'nonexclusive rights'.

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I had the same story in two anthologies that published at the same time last year.

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Nonexclusive rights.

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Now I just sold a story to another anthology. Exclusive anthology rights.

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I can't republish that story for a period of time after it comes out. (I think one year, but I can't remember. Might be six months).

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Then the rights revert to me, and I can sell anthology rights on that story again.

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Exclusive rights. I can only publish it in this anthology for a certain period of time.

mmmmmm6

If a website takes first rights, does this deter publishers?

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Yes.

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They often won't buy second rights.

tory

You can mention the title of another book. What about 5-10 words? Must you get permission for even that small amount as long as you say where it came from?

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Here's what the copyright office says:

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Under the fair use doctrine of the U.S. copyright statute, it is permissible to use limited portions of a work including quotes, for purposes such as commentary, criticism, news reporting, and scholarly reports. There are no legal rules permitting the use of a specific number of words, a certain number of musical notes, or percentages of a work. Whether a particular use qualifies as fair use depends on all the circumstances.

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But notice the limitations? Reporting. Commentary, Criticism. Scholarly reports.

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NOT fiction.

quixote

you suggested earlier '...0ne time use in a book or a story'... then 'for a limited time' on the internet... who decides the 'limited time'?

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Your contract. :-)

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That's what a contract is all about.

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How much permission you are giving for what length of time.

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You really need to READ your contracts.

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That's why I posted that link to the SFWA legal page in the newsletter, where you can read sample contracts.

barbiq

so you can't quote another book in a work of fiction, for example one character telling another character about a book they had read?

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Sure you character can tell another charcter about a book he read. That's not quoting the book.

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What you cannot do is include a verbatim page lifted straight from that book without permission.

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I get permission requests all the time, often for a single paragraph.

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Someone wants to use it in a textbook or an article on writing or something.

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I love it! I give them a beaming 'yes please'. Most writers are thrilled with the PR>

jitterbug

If you sell your personal story to an anthology bk, does

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that mean u can't write another story about that personal

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experience?

Mary Rosenblum

Good question, jitterbug. Let's make a clear distinction between words and ideas.

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Copyright ONLY covers the actual words.

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You can only sell a copy of those specific words to another publisher if it does not violate the contract you signed with the publisher of that anthology.

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You can write about your personal experience all you want.

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I am always telling my NF students to write three or four or five versions of a topic and publish with different magazines.

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So far, my winner is six different sales from one topic.

builder guy

I know If you share an idea it's a free market. Hell some one can take off with that Idea just because you have not. Do you think keeping your PIE HOLE shut about an Idea that may be Awsome in your thoughts will keep your idea safe while your making it happen. (slow term)

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Builder, I get this question so much and the answer is both yes and now.

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In the prose world, ten writers can take the same idea and end up with ten very different books.

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One might be a blockbuster, six might be duds, three might be okay. Same idea.

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Now I hear that in Hollywood (and I hear this from folk in the biz) ideas are what sell. There, you keep that pie hole shut if you know what's good for you.

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And often, you may have to sign a statement if you pitch an idea to a production company that you will not sue if they bring out something similar later.

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Ideas ARE a hot item there.

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But not in the prose universe. It's what you DO with the idea that sells the book. Not the idea itself.

rslnwife

What about a non-fiction article about a historical person?

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Are you asking if it violates copyright in any way, rsln?

rslnwife

That question was actually from a while ago...and selling all the rights...

Mary Rosenblum

Ah, okay. Sorry. I"m getting a LOT of questions. :-)

jitterbug

What rights do you need to keep just the copyright if you

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plan to use the same characters, etc

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Just don't sell ALL rights and you're fine.

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Let me define some of the most common rights purchased:

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First Rights (First North American, First World).

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You sell permission to publish this work FIRST.

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If you sell First NA rights, you can sell First European rights at the same time.

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If you sell First English Langauge Rights you can sell First French Rights at the same time.

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Many publishers these days acquire First World Rights.

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That covers all langauges and all forms of publication including electronic.

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But once it is published, you can sell Second or Reprint rights.

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Exclusive -- only in this publication, nowhere else (usually for a limited time).

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Nonexclusive -- you can publish other places that buy nonexclusive rights.

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Anthology rights: First or Second, exclusive or nonexclusive -- right to publish work in a collection with other stories.

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Electronic rights -- right to publish in electronic form -- your contract will specify.

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Be careful about duration there. You don't want to find that you have sold exclusive electronic rights with no 'end date'.

quixote

isn't there an intenational convention that binds all signatories? So rights in the US say, apply in France or Australia?

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About 100 countries abide by international copyright law.

barbiq

The usual sale includes first rights either in the USA or internationaly....correct?

Mary Rosenblum

For books, magazines, and top of the line ezines, yes.

mmmmmm6

I assume the rate you are paid depends upon the rights?

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Yes. You get paid much more for first rights.

rslnwife

Would that published article be one of my clips then? Even if I sold all rights.

Mary Rosenblum

Any published article is part of your clips, rsln. Doesn't matter what rights you have sold. :-)

barbiq

Isn't that really what happened with DaVinvci code? Dan Brown, Steve Barry and Jack Whyte all came out with stories about the templar's at the same time....

Mary Rosenblum

Yes, and that happens all the time! What do you think we gossip about when we're at conferences? Who's writing what?

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You'll often see a bunch of similar stuff crop up at once. Look at the 'cyberpunk movement' in SF.

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Bill Gibson started it. A bunch of other folk, moi included, used some of the basic ideas.

builder guy

I hope eventualy your agent or your publisher will take care of your rights with their lawyers in the long run. Am I wrong here mary?

Mary Rosenblum

Not if you ONLY publish novels that are handled by a good agent, builder.

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But any more, that's a limited part of the market.

sss1208

are you going to post all these rights , so we can read them later

Mary Rosenblum

I am indeed, sss. It'll be in writing craft: Forum Transcripts. :-)

andi

do the publisher who published the story let you know when the exclusive time is up?

Mary Rosenblum

Nope. :-) You need to pay attention. I've had some squeakers, believe me! I've sold a story, say, to Asimov's, and then had some editor ask to use it

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in an anthology, but I can't republish it for six months after it appears in Asimov's.

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So I have to know when that story will be out, and when the anthology will be out.

jitterbug

So basically if u sell all rights it's going to be for only

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a shory period of time

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If you sell All Rights, you can never use that story or piece again, but here's the nasty catch, all you fiction writers out there...

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you can never use those characters again either.

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And you can never resell that story. When you sell All Rights all those words and those characters belong to the purchaser.

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If you want to use those characters again you must buy the right to do so from that person.

charie'

If the publisher (with exclusive 1st rights) pushes back the print date, can you still sell 2nd rights after original contract date?

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That is a VERY good point, charie, and where some legal wrangling arises.

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It depends on your contract. Say your contract stipulates that you cannot republish the work for six months after publication

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but the publisher puts off publishing the story and you have an editor who wants to put it in an anthology....

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you are stuck.

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If the contract says 'six months after publication but if the work is not published within 12 months of signing, all rights revert to the author' then you're fine.

rslnwife

Can they tell you when it will actually run? Things I have read sound like they just leave you waiting for it to show up.

Mary Rosenblum

They can usually tell you within six months when it will run. Sometimes sooner. You have to ask. But not all magazines are well run, sigh.

destiny8

If I sell all rights to an article, then the mag decides not

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to publish it, can I get my ownership back?

Mary Rosenblum

Nope. Once you sign a contract transferring All Rights to someone, it's gone forever unless they sign those rights over to you once more.

info

Just out of curiousity, what happens if say I come up with a charactor John Doe and write a novel about him and the next writer writes about John Doe but it's a different charactor and different story? Can two writers who doesn't know each other have a character with the same name without knowing it and they both get published?

Mary Rosenblum

Sure. Names are not copyrightable.

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Characters ARE.

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If you put Bart Simpson in your next novel and he's yellow and talks like the TV character you are violating copyright.

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If you have a tall, stoop shouldered janitor who's kind of dumb and his name is Bart Simpson and everybody teases him about it, making Bart Simpson jokes, you're fine.

kolanda

if they pay you for it and then wait does that make any difference or is there a difference in paid and unpaid

Mary Rosenblum

I'm not quite sure what you're asking here, Kolanda. Want to clarify a bit?

sailor

First World Rights gives them first time rights in whatever medium them choose, but not multiple media, correct? So, if they publish a story in a print mag, they could not later publish it in an anthology as well.

Mary Rosenblum

Sailor, the rights they're buying should be more define than that. First world rights to publish in Sailing magazine.

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Now contracts will often include anthology mentions.

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When I sign an Asimov's contract, it includes a paragraph that says they get to use that story without further permission from me in any

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anthology that includes 80% Asimov stories. And they pay me a specific fee for doing so.

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So I often get a check in the mail telling me that they've used such and such story in such and such anthology.

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Checks are nice and the right to do so is nonexclusive.

kolanda

if they pay you for a story and wait a year to run it and you have already sold it to someone else is that a problem. Maybe this question still doesn''t make sense

Mary Rosenblum

It's a big problem for YOU Kolanda. If you have signed a contract giving them first rights, then it's up to you to make sure that you do not publish it elsewhere until they do.

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This is part of the life of a writer. You have to know which of your stories are free to republish and which are not yet free to republish.

cjwmahrus

Would clips include a website posting then, even if your own

Mary Rosenblum

Well, an editor isn't going to pay any attention to a posting on your own website.

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They want to know that a publisher thought your work was worth buying. :-)

kolanda

so, the year doesn't matter if they haven't run it yet, just the first rights clause

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First Rights means you GUARANTEE them the right to publish it first.

builder guy

Last ? from me, Do you keep your Aces in the hold when you know you have something that can be great in your own eyes? I mean a really good story.

Mary Rosenblum

Well, kind of, yeah, builder. :-) I mean I share it with my writer friends, who aren't going to use my idea. But I don't sit around at a conference bar with the rest of the pros and spout off about my great new idea.

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HOwever....most of us are very very ethical.

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I've been crowing quite a bit lately about my cool new alternate history universe. I've got a novelette coming out and I plan to do a novel

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in that universe. Nobody else in the SF world is going to do that now.

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I've sort of put my brand on it.

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I"m not going to steal my friend's generation ship universe or try to do what Stan Robinson is doing with his Mars books.

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Everybody will know I"m stealing.

kolanda

thanks Mary, the light bulb now burns brightly on first rights

kolanda

it sounds as if a new writer could really get bogged down in all of this, what is the best way to avoid pitfalls while trying to break into print

Mary Rosenblum

You said it, Kolanda! This is why I'm going this Forum and why I've let it run WAY over time.

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You can get WAY bogged down and it can be costly.

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You really do need to learn how to read contracts.

charie'

Is there a clause to request in case the 1st rights publisher goes out of business before publishing your story?

Mary Rosenblum

This can get sticky. Riight now a bunch of books are tied up in a bankruptcy case and will be stuck as assets until the case is settled.

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SFWA is getting involved.

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That clause should be in there if you're dealing with a novel contract.

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Let me post some good resource URLS because I do need to end this.

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We'll do more forums on rights.

sailor

Here is an attorney's web site that has lots of articles about rights and contracts for writers: www.ivanhoffman.com/helpful.html  Some of them give examples from actual court cases. There are other attorney sites out there, but this one seemd very extensive.

Mary Rosenblum

I'll look at that one, Sailor.

cajunbelle

So, SHOULD we have a lawyer when it comes to reading

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Just educate yourself Cajun.

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You can always ask questions here.

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Writers Beware case studies: http://www.sfwa.org/beware/cases.html

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Read them and weep!

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Great examples of bad mistakes.

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sfwa.org Writers Beware: http://www.sfwa.org/beware/index.html

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bookmark that Writers Beware page and read it many times.

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It's a great education on publishing matters.

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http://www.copyright.gov/help/faq/  US copyright office.

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Publaw.com http://www.publaw.com/index.html

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Publaw.com is a very good legal site and the lawyer who runs it has given me persmission (copyright issue here...I need his permission) to post his articles in the LR newsletter.

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Publaw.com legal articles: http://www.publaw.com/legal.html

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Read these articles. They cover a WIDE range of topics and offer a lot of help regarding electronic rights.

barbiq

Is there any why that Long Ridge can include a section in BIP on Copyrights?

Mary Rosenblum

I'd write to LR and suggest it. They're thinking about redoing that course. :-) It should be covered.

tory

I worked for a year to locate a photographer whose work I'd seen on line to get permission to put one of his photos on my website. Guess I coulda just done it. Oh, well--that's why we attend Mary's forums!!

Mary Rosenblum

You could have, tory.

geezer

How long should I wait for payment after a SS is published?

Mary Rosenblum

Sorry, geeze, I meant to answer you.

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Generally that is specified in the contract.

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On publication usually.

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If you don't get paid in thirty days, I'd query.

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But check your contract.

sailor

Thanks, Mary. It seems that new rights keep evolving so there's always more to learn on this subject.

Mary Rosenblum

Ah, electronic rights are a JUNGLE!

Mary Rosenblum

Go read those publaw articles!

Mary Rosenblum

Well, thanks for coming all.

Mary Rosenblum

It's a complicated topic. I learned it the hard way and I was lucky not to get burned in the process.

Mary Rosenblum

As the publishing world expands it's getting MUCH more complicated, partly because of the BAD contracts out there.

 

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