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Sharpen that Hook! 4/3/07



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Mary Rosenblum

Hello all.

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I hope you had an excellent weekend and that spring has finally arrived everywhere.

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I wanted to talk about hooks today, because I've been seeing a lot of hook problems in student manuscripts lately

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as well as manuscripts that I've been working on for a conference workshop.

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It seems to be a topic worth touching on again.

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A hook is simply an enticement at the very start of your piece that encourages the reader to keep reading

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and not to put the book back on the shelf or flip to the next story or article in the magazine.

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Readers, consciously or otherwise, use those opening lines or paragraphs as a test...does this look like something I want to read?

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So it is important!

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In nonfiction, your hook and lead not only entice the reader, they also let the readers know just what the article is about.

redwagon

Are there any forbidden 'hooks'?

Mary Rosenblum

There's no forbidden anything in writing, red. The only criterion is It Must Work.

illegible

Are there exercises for practicing hooks?

Mary Rosenblum

Just do them. See how exciting you can make it sound! You'll find writing books on the subject.

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Actually, that's going to be a writing prompt for the LR newsletter. Stay tuned.

rrmama

Are a hook and a lead the same thing in nonfiction?

Mary Rosenblum

No, although they're connected rr.

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The hook entices the reader. "Throwing out those florist tulips? Think again."

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That's your hook. The reader who's about to dump that post of gift flowers, now yellowed' reads on.

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With a quick repotting and a little TLC those flowers can live again.

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The lead tells the reader that this article is about how to report those faded tulip bulbs and get them to bloom again. The body of the article will be the steps...the how to.

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Now in fiction, you're donig the opposite of Nonfiction where you want to make it clear to the readers what the article is about.

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In fiction you're using the reader

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curiosity to suck them into the story. What's happening here???

gre23

How do you know if your hook works?

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The only real way to know if anything works, gre, is to get reader feedback.

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It's a good idea to find some other novice writers or experienced readers who can give you useful feedback on your work.

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This is okay or this is awful is not useful feedback.

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But...'I thought this article was about dog training and it's about parenting issues' is useful feedback.

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You've confused your reader.

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When you give something to a reader ask specifically -- did my opening make you want to read on?

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In fiction, it's a good idea to begin with action or dialogue rather than a big blob of backstory.

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Now short story hooks and novel hooks can be quite different.

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In a short story your words are limited, so you want to propel the reader directly into the first plot element.

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What I see a lot in short stories are a page of backstory setting up the character and the setting, then the story finally begins.

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Not good. Most readers will jump ship by then.

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In a short story, start with action and weave the backstory into the action and dialogue. All this readers need to know is enough that the scene makes sense.

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That can be very little.

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You can add backstory right up to your climax.

kish100

Immediatly following the hook is important too isn't it?

Mary Rosenblum

It is, Chris, good question!

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What I have seen a lot of lately is what I call a 'disconnected hook'.

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The writer dutifully gives us a nice sharp hook. Jennie snatched up the broken rake and drove the splintered end into the vampire's chest.

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Then we instantly leap backward three weeks in time to : Jennie peered out the grimy bus window as the ancient vehicle bounced and groaned its way up the mountain...

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and for the next page and a half or more, we hear all about how she arrived at the castle where the vampire lived.

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This is not good. :-)

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Your hook has the readers on the edges of their seats. What happens next!!!!???

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So when you drop the scene cold and retreat into backstory you not only ruin the suspense of the moment as our eyes glaze over but you annoy readers.

speckledorf

And Jennie wouldn't be thinking about having to run to the store to get a new rake darn it all:--)

Mary Rosenblum

Yeah, there is plausibility of character thought, word, and deed, too.

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If you start with an exciting event...

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you need to bring that event to its natural conclusion. Don't drop it and skip way back in time!

redwagon

Should you have a hook at every chapter beginning, as well as at the start of the story? Should you, not -do you have to...!

Mary Rosenblum

Well, in a different sort of way, red.

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You want to avoid the 'Indiana Jones' style of narrative, where every chapter ends with a life and death cliff hanger and

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the next chapter starts with a narrow escape.

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What you do need at a chapter start is a different kind of hook. You need to make the where/when/who crystal clear in the course of the scene.

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That means we need to know where we are, when this scene is taking place relative to the previous chapter, and who the POV is.

kish100

so, action runs the story history moves readers along?

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Yes. Action is the backbone of the story -- it drives the plot forward continuously. I'm including dialogue in action by the way.

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Speaking and acting move the story forward.

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Internal narrative and visual description give the story depth.

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But internal narrative or visuals without character action/dialogue stop the forward movement.

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That's why you want to avoid expository lumps (big chunks of telling or thinking).

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BUT...action and dialogue without visuals or internal narrative is thin, without depth and won't engage readers strongly.

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So you from your hook, you want to keep that action flowing forward.

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When you shift into the past to load us up with backstory you stop the forward motion right off the bat.

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Think about driving a car -- hitting the gas then slamming on the brake. Ouch.

pegram

How can you tell when to do narritive?

Mary Rosenblum

Mostly practice, pegram. Read a scene and then objectively ask yourself what you see/hear in that scene.

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If the answer is 'nothing' you need some action!

redwagon

"It was a dark and stormy night..." Honestly, isnt night always dark? I guess weather can be a hook, even if it's obvious? Is the real hook here, the storm?

Mary Rosenblum

Yes, you CAN use weather as a hook but be aware that every reader on the planet (except the ones who live on desert islands and haven't read a book in 50 years) will be

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thinking 'dark and stormy night!' when they read that weather hook.

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Alas, cliches can ruin some great starts! :-) Yes, you can still use a weather hook, but make it a STRONG weather hook.

illegible

can you shape the 1st paragraph to accelerate using setting, character and situation and not overcrowd it?

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Yes, and that's where skill comes in, illeg.

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Your hook can't confuse readers, so you instantly have to fill in enough story details so that it makes sense.

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She plunged the knife into the stallion's throat.

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Wow, powerful image.

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But reader questions are going to demand some kind of explanation here.

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That means in the next THREE sentences we'd better have a clue about what is taking place here.

illegible

she had no other way of slowing down the hurtling, crazed animal.

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Only you'd show this to us, illeg...let us see her in a stall, see the damage to the horse, she wipes the knife

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on her dusty jeans and tells Larry, who just ran into the barn, 'I should start carrying a gun.'

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Now we have bad injury image, and the context of western range and cowboys and mercy killing.

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Or you show us white robed priests and a braided leather halter, an alter piled with wood and it's the King Horse sacrifice in ancient Elusis

illegible

you're right. Cause I was picturing her riding the hurtling, crazed animal with no way to stop it.

Mary Rosenblum

You need to do the choreography there, illeg. :-)

illegible

what do you mean?

Mary Rosenblum

Just that any time you plan an extreme action scene -- a sword fight, something like this, you need to really figure out what's possible and what isn't and what it would require to do that action.

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Now in a novel, you have more leeeway.

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You don't have to begin a novel the way you begin a short story, although it's fine if you do.

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But you have your first chapter to hook the reader.

illegible

an issue of plausibility?

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Yes. If readers see a hole in your story where they KNOW it couldn't happen like this, you shatter that entire suspension of disbelief.

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It's worth making sure that your facts and actions are very plausible.

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Now that does NOT mean that you can fill that first chapter with backstory.

yarnsome

When's the best time to write the hook?

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In my opinion if your first five pages hook the reader strongly, you're ahead of the game, yarn.

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But generally, as long as manage to hook the reader somewhere in that chapter and include the first plot element you should be okay.

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Now you can hook the reader with action that is not part of the main plot as you set up world and characters.

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Remember I mostly write in the SF/fantasy universe. So I have to build a new world for readers as I go.

redwagon

What chapter[s] should contain the backstory?

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Red, all chapters should contain backstory, right up to your climax chapter.

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You do not want to simply stop and dump and entire chapter's worth of backstory on the reader.

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As your characters act and speak, weave that backstory in. We'll learn it through coversation, letters from home, POV thoughts, that sort of thing.

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Slip us a bit here, another bit there, keep it coming.

aelle

Exactly what is the 'first plot element'?

Mary Rosenblum

Good question, Aelle. :-)

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That is the first event that leads the characters directly toward the climax and resolution.

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Here's an example. The novel opens with a raid on a village -- a low tech world, the raiders are mounted and use bows...

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the villagers use bows and slings. The raiders are driven off and in the process of all this we meet a young man who is the

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illegitimate son of the headman born to a lowly mother. And after the raid, he's out searching for a bow

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that might have been dropped by a raider because he isn't allowed to make one and he's captured by the raiderrs.

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And that event starts him on his journey to the main city and his ultimate destiny as he finds out he's really the High King's son, not the headman's by-blow.

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That capture is the first plot element, but the raid action serves as a hook to interest the readers in this world.

yarnsome

Do you write your hooks after you've finished your book?

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Sometimes. That happened more often when I was a novice and really wasn't sure where a story started when I wrote it.

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I'd have to go back, trim off the 'pre story' part and come up with a strong hook.

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Most of the time now I have a good hook from the get go. I love coming up with strong hooks. They're rarely life and death action but usually

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some kind of visually strong action that allows me to build a world quickly.

adularia2

What are the most common hook mistakes?

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The one I see most often, adularia, is the super sharp hook -- she stabs the vampire -- and then the reader skips back in time to dump a ton of backstory on us.

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That really turns readers off.

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By the time we get back to the vampire stabbing, the suspense is of course gone and we really don't care any more.

pegram

Do you use the title as a hook too?

Mary Rosenblum

If I can. Sigh. I have a love/hate relationship with titles. They either spring instantly into my head or they never really work.

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That's why I did my title prompt in this week's newsletter. :-) You don't even have to write the story, just come up with a cool title.

redwagon

Is there a good time for introducing subplot? Right away or more towards the middle of a novel?

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Depends on how the subplot ties in, red.

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Usually it walks onstage in the guise of a character, so whenever that character steps into the book, he/she hauls the subplot in at the same time.

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You can always go back on revision and weave in subplots that occurred to you partway through the book.

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I have about three subplots in my 'revision notes' file that have to be woven into the first part of the novel I'm currently finishing.

redwagon

Go back and weave...thats what I hoped you'd say ; )

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Of course. A novel is rarely if ever 'finished' after a first draft! None of mine ever have been, that's for sure.

kish100

If vamp was one of many servants to a master it would hook?

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Anything can hook, Chris. It's HOW you write it that gets the reader attention, not what is happening.

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You want drama, clear action, and you want the reader to be wondering 'what's going on?' and read on to find out.

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But then you have to answer at least some of those questions -- not all!

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You can dole out clues and bits of information as the story unfolds.

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As long as readers know enough that the action makes sense and they sort of know what's happening, you're fine.

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You don't have to hand them everything! And you shouldn't. Satisfying our curiosity is right up there with eating chocolate as a pleasurable activity.

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Don't feed your readers a pound box of chocolates in chapter one!

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You'll make them sick!

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So remember...for fiction, start with action and dialogue and arouse reader curiosity, then keep the story moving forward.

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for NF, arouse reader interest then reveal what your article is going to be about.

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That's your lead -- what this article will be about.

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Thanks for coming all!

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I'll post the transcripts in the usual place:

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Writing Craft: Forum Transcripts.

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Go try my 'titlemania' prompt.

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It's in this week's newsletter. Click on Free Writers News on the LR Website

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Or go to Writing Craft: Newsletter

 

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