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Writing the Query Letter 12/21/07

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Fri Dec 21 19:04:53 2007

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Fri Dec 21 20:05:39 2007



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Mary Rosenblum

Hello all.

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Welcome to our Friday After Hour Forum, on this, the start of the Great Holiday Weekend.

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We are all the people who are NOT waiting in line at airports or on the highways.

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I've had a few requests to talk about query letters.

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And they are indeed a fact of life if you write nonfiction or book length work in either fiction or nonfiction.

charge2charge

Are names copyrighted?

Mary Rosenblum

Names are not copyrightable, charge, although characters ARE.

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You can name your main character Scarlet O'Hara if you want.

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The publisher may or may not be happy with that, depending on what you do with that character, but you're not violating copyright law by using it.

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Now if your character is obviously THE Scarlet O'Hara from 'Gone With The Wind', you cannot use her without permission from the Mitchell estate.

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But if your tomboy with Irish red hair and freckles who hates dresses and pitches a mean fast ball was named Scarlet O'Hara by her mother who was a fan of the novel, that's fine.

msruthie

How much of "bio" about yourself needs to be in a query?

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Only what is pertinent or will help sell you, ruthie.

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If you are writing, say, a mystery that takes place in a zoo and you are a career zoo keeper, mention that.

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No need to mention that you are an avid quilter and a 4H leader.

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If you have been published, mention it. If you have not, do not mention that you have not been published. :-0

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A query letter is simply designed to get the editor or agent to ask for the entire piece.

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In the nonfiction universe, the editor ASSUMES that you can write competently. That editor wants to know if you have an idea that his readers want to hear about.

k c morlock

I have a writer's resume listing my paid work, does it have a place in a query envelope along with the query letter or should I keep that to myself?

Mary Rosenblum

Myself, I would not submit a resume like that if it was not part of the submission requirements. Editors tend to read queries on the run

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while grabbing a donut and coffee at their desk at 11:30 in the morning and they appreciate brevity.

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Include the pertinent details (I'm a zoo keeper) in the query letter itself.

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When you send a looooong letter or lots of extra 'stuff' you tend to annoy the overworked editor who is in a tearing rush.

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PItch it fast, briefly, and get that editor or agent to ask for more.

rae

SHouldn't a query letter be only one page long?

Mary Rosenblum

Yes. Always, always, always. There...that's one of the few 'always' you'll hear from me.

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If you can't convey what you are offering in a single spaced page, it suggests that you don't really know what you're offering.

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And that is a huge challenge, if you haven't tried it!

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Writing those tight little book jacket blurbs is very hard.

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In the nonfiction universe, you are giving the editor specific information:

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What you are offering.

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Why the readers want to read it.

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Why YOU should write this.

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You start with a hook, you reveal your slant, and you let the editor know why you are going to do this well.

rae

What about the fiction world? Where does a query come in?

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The query is in more limited use in the fictional world. Because it's not the idea that the editor is buying, as it is with Nonfiction, the editor needs to actually read the story

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to see if the story and style will appeal to his/her readers.

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But these days, it is mainly used for novel submissions.

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Editors and agents were getting walled in with piles of 500 page manuscripts.

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So they started asking for a query first.

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That allows them to determine if

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The story suits their line.

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The story seems marketable.e

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The writer seems to know what he/she is doing.

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Many submissions simply are not appropriate for that publisher or the agent being queried.

rae

Wouldn't a synopsis be better for that sort of thing?

Mary Rosenblum

Most editors and agents ask for the query because it's short. They don't want to read a 5 - 10 page synopsis. If the hook and story catches their eye, they'll

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probably ask for the entire manuscript.

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Of they may ask for a synopsis next. Depends on the agent or editor.

builder

Hey Mary. I've been looking at a lot of short story and flash fiction guidelines. Most of the short stuff can be submitted without a query, in fact it sounds like they prefer that. (one less thing to read). They also say it is OK to submit a query if you want to. This sounds like DON'T send it AGHHHH. Am I wrong? lol. Happy Hollidays by the way.

Mary Rosenblum

Very few fiction editors actually ask for a query, builder.

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THe success of a fiction piece depends entirely on how it is written.

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In nonfiction, you are assumed to be a competent writer, and it's the idea and slant that matter. So a query can reveal that.

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The fiction editor won't know if your story is good or not until he/she reads it.

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That 'query if you want to' is dangerous. It translates to : if you are so ignorant of the publishing business let's save us both some time and postage.

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It's just about an automatic rejection.

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BUT...if you have something that does not suit the guidelines and you think the publisher might look at it anyway, then you can query.

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I'm about to send off a query to an editor on behalf of a student. She has written an hilarious fantasy that will suit the anthology perfectly, but it's too long and I can't see any good way to shorten it.

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So I"m querying the editor to ask if she's willing to look at a piece of this length.

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If she says yes, I'll tell my studen to send it to her. That's a valid reason to query a fiction editor.

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If you have the option to send the entire piece, by all means do so!

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Almost nobody writes a better query letter than the article or story itself.

builder

Good Call!!! I should have mentioned the short storys were non fiction. Thanks Mary.

Mary Rosenblum

Ah...you just confused me with syntax, Builder. Be careful about this. 'Story' is presumed to be fiction.

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What you're talking about is a personal narrative, right? A story drawn from real life.

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Here, again, editors nearly always want the entire piece.

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As with a fiction story, it's how the author writes the story that makes it succeed...or fail.

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So nearly always, editors will look at a complete nonfiction essay or personal narrative.

rae

When you have received a rejection on a non-fiction piece, should you redo the slant before you send it back out?

Mary Rosenblum

Well, not if you're sending it to a different market, rae. Personally, I slant every NF piece quite specifically to the magazine I'm writing for. I would propose a slightly different piece for a different magazine.

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If it's a nonfiction personal narrative, as with fiction, just keep sending it out unless you get very specific comments on what is not working.

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You really do not know why an editor has rejected that piece.

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It might have nothing to do with the quality of the piece.

msruthie

Should I say what I will offer for the article or should I have them already done?

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Every pro that I know, myself included, queries first and writes the piece only when a 'go ahead' is received.

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Now I'm talking 'informational NF' here -- an article on selecting perennial plants offered to a gardening magazine.

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Personal narratives are handled more like fiction.

charie'

Don't you have all the research done before you send out the query? So you can slant it later?

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Yes, and if you want to pay the mortgage this way, you plan on writing several articles out of that pool of research.

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Locally, a good friend of mine supports himself entirely on his freelance writing, mostly in the science writing field.

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When he goes to a conference, he scouts for two or three feature articles and a host of smaller pieces. He may sell five, six, seven pieces that came from his conference notes.

k c morlock

If the editor does give the go ahead for the article it can still be rejected, right?

Mary Rosenblum

Of course. As I said, the editor assumes you can write competently. If you can't, you'll get a 'no thanks'. And things change.

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The editor may have to change the issue that your piece was slated for and suddenly he/she no longer needs your article.

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Usually you get a 'kill fee' for that. It's generally about half of the purchase price.

charge2charge

How should you start a query letter?

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Start with a strong hook, charge.

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The editor is in a rush, thinking about something else, scanning through the stack of queries on his/her desk

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and that editor has already assigned most of the pieces he/she needs. You want to snag that editor's eye instantly.

msruthie

(Informational NF) What if I'm writing about a subject or..

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to an audience that I've never written to before?

Mary Rosenblum

You'll have to work hard, msruthie, in order to know what to include and what readers will already know.

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Generally, professional freelancers become 'experts' in particular fields. My friend Rick, for example, writes about all kinds of science topics and running topics.

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He doesn't write articles on gardening or food.

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He COULD, but he'd have to do a lot of background research so that he would know what readers will be interested in.

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That's a lot of work and he gets plenty of assignments in science and running, so he doesn't write gardening or food articles.

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Query letters are pretty consistent in form. You start with a strong hook, then you lead into the letter by telling your editor or agent what you are offering.

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Then you tell that person why they want to buy this from YOU.

sss1208

so, if i am a pat rack syndrome person, i should tell the editor that, if writing about clutter and how to get rid of clutter?

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Well, let's use this as an example, sss. Let's say that you are pitching an informational piece to the editor of a glossy, home magazine.

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The readers are women mostly -- working single women or newlyweds.

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So you start with a hook that will catch the editor's attention. It's usually the same hook with which you'll start the article.

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Your date's due in an hour and your house looks like the day after a Christmas sale. Again. So where do you turn to help? A packrat myself, I found salvation when I hired a professional organizer to go through my home and show me how to organize my messy life. For those of us with serious packrat issues, the professional organizer is worth the money.

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I'm offering a 1500 word piece on professional organizers, featuring interviews with the head of Organize Yourself Inc and a professional organizer.

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Here you have the hook that will snag the reader and snags the editor if she's looking for this type of piece.

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You tell the editor what you are offering, and you offer your own personal 'expertise'. You're one, too. That suggests a high level of personal connection with the readers.

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Then you tell her that you're going to include original source material -- the interviews.

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Then you would add your clips, of course. You tell her where you have been published.

charie'

If you use this slant and haven't hired an organizer, just researched them, does it hurt your article's credibility?

Mary Rosenblum

Yes, editors generally want original source material. Don't tell 'em you have it if you don't.

barbiq

Should you always pitch an article before you query or as a new writer should you write first, query second?

Mary Rosenblum

Practice never hurts, barb!

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As a novice writer, you may well find it easier to write a strong query if you have the article in front of you.

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But in reality, you will often receive a different assignment...no, I don't want this, but why don't you write me that...

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So your pre-written article won't fit.

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Often the word limit is changed. I'll take it, but do it in 800 words, not 1500.

cjwmahrus

Joanne had an interesting question - Is it permissible to send the same article query to numerous magazine editors?

Mary Rosenblum

Well, it can get you into trouble, Joanne.

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What if three different editors all tell you they want the same article. You can't sell the same piece to three different markets.

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If they have different SLANTS yes. But you've pitched a particular slant and that's the one all three editors want.

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So you are going to seriously tick off two of those three editors.

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That is NOT good for your career prospects, believe me.

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Query for different slants.

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One of my students has now published EIGHT articles from one interview.

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She slanted each one differently. She holds the record so far!

sss1208

but don't you really need to write the article or be sure you know the subject very well before query, if you are new, you might get go ahead and then fail

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You need to have done enough research to know that you CAN write the article that you are proposing. By all means write it if you're not sure of yourself.

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But generally, you should know if you have enough research material to write this.

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In nonfiction markets, you are presenting your idea and the slant you intend to use.

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The editor considers. Do I like this idea? Have I published anything like it recently? Will my readers want to read it?

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So that editor has to have enough information about that piece to answer all those questions.

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What I see as a LR instructor all too often are vague queries that don't answer these questions well.

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I want to send you a 1500 word article about shoplifting.

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What ABOUT shoplifting? How to do it? How to spot shoplifters in your store? What will happen to your life if you shoplift?

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Each of these three slants will have very different readers and obviously all three are not likely to appeal to the same readers.

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How does the editor have a clue what you're really offering here? If you send off a query like this, 99 times out of 100 you won't get any response back.

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That is an editorial rap across your knuckles with a virtual ruler.

builder

How about targeting your query. Should you research the Mag or whoever your submitting to and tell them what they want to hear?

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For informational, yes, builder. That is strictly, STRICTLY a matter of figuring out what this editor needs and offering to sell it to him.

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For personal narratives like you write, you simply match the story more generally to the readers of a particular magazine.

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I have a student who writes hilarously wonderful narratives about people in his home town....many of them involving mishaps during hunting and fishing trips.

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I've advised him to try those narratives with the hunting and fishing mags. His stories are likely to appeal to those readers and the similarity in theme...hunting...matches up.

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Selling your words is no different than selling apples.

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You have to find buyers who want apples.

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That's what a query letter does. I'm selling apples today, very nice apples. Can I interest you in a dozen or so?

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If the editor is a baker who specializes in apple pies, you either get a yes, thanks, or she just bought a bushel and she'd rather have blackberries today. Too bad.

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That's the business, in a nutshell. Or should I say pieshell? :-)

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Remember: Be concise.

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Start with a hook.

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Tell the editor what you are offering.

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Tell the editor why you should write this.

builder

Got it in a wine bottle. lol

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There you go. :-)

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Well, I hope this has helped.

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You'll find some articles on the query letter in Writing Craft: Nonfiction.

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They're worth a lot of practice.

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The better your query letter, the more likely you are to sell the piece.

charge2charge

I heard only the main characters of tv shows are copyrighted

charge2charge

not the supporting characters, is this true?

Mary Rosenblum

I can't help you there, charge. The rights and rules of Hollywood are quite different than the prose arts.

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In prose, ALL characters are copyrighted.

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Dunno about TV or movie.

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I would be AMAZED if they were not.

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If you're not too busy with the holiday season, drop by Sunday evening for our casual chat.

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I should be there and we can kick back and relax for a bit.

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I'll post the transcript in the usual place: Writing Craft: Forum Transcripts.

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See you all Sunday!

 

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